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Sierra-2 Development Thread
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Ok, I'm going to put this out there.
With all the focus lately on the new Sierra Towers and Center speaker, let us not forget that some of us do not have the budget, and some do not have the space needed to jump onto the tower bandwagon!
So, what if us Sierra-1 NrT owners desire some of the midrange goodness offered by the towers? Would a replacement driver for the Sierra-1 woofer be something possible? Say, more of a mid driver with less emphasis on the low bass, which is usually handled by a sub. Perhaps something similar to the tower mid driver with the required crossover modification. This way we can have more of the mids that the tower produces?
What do you think, Dave? Sound like something possible?:cool:
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We talk about something like this at one of the gatherings at the shop. It definitely would not be the Tower's mid-driver. It can not play low enough to cross to a sub.
How low would you want it to go? It would have to go to at least 60-70hz or so to cross to a sub nicely.
Hopefully Dave can elaborate.
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Ed,
Way to throw a monkey wrench into my works! ;) Yes, I have been coveting the new towers and, yes, they are out of my financial reach, but I am totally satisfied with my current system (Arcam DV137, Sony BDP-N460 [only reason for two disc spinners is the Sony plays BluRay but the Arcam plays SCAD, DVD Audio and sounds MUCH better on CDs and the picture and sound on up-converted DVDs is no contest] T+A Power Plant, Ascend Sierra 1 Nrt and my trusty Sunfire True Sub) for the first time since 1997 (Adcom CD player, Audio Alchemy DLC, circa 1978 Marantz amp [a beastly 254wpc] Sony ES SS-M5 speakers [you know, those odd, tetrahedronal units made FOR Sony but not designed BY them] and my trusty Sunfire True Sub). Between 1997 and the present, my system has gone through many changes because of marriage and/or divorce, unemployment, ad nauseum. Suffice to say, aside from intellectual longings, I am done (for now, hehe). There have been a select few speakers that have really lit my fire (Proac 1SC, Ruark, Vandersteen 2CE [oy - those are ugly to this day] the aforementioned Sony's and, now the Sierras). To tamper with small monitor perfection is, shall I say, heresy! I do not know what Dave has up his sleeve (I read the thread on how difficult it would be to incorporate an RALL tweeter) but leave well enough alone! My check book cannot afford it. And to deprive the Sierra of it's bass response with the mid driver from the tower - heck, go for an Axiom M22 (kidding, though I did own a pair).
I hope you find this post in jest, for that is how I intended it. If Dave can come up with something better than the Nrt at a similar price point, I'm all in. Doubtful...
John
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I did not mean this as a replacement for the NrT, but as another enhancement/upgrade like the NrT tweeter was. The goal being a cost-effective method of another performance enhancement.
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How much bass are you willing to give up? Also remember, cost effective goes two ways. Dave has to be sure he can sell enough for it to be cost effective on his end, he also has to believe the improvement is cost effective to his customers.
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If you use a crossover (with sub) anyhow, it lowers the 'strain' of the woofer, so that should marginally improve performance, probably not up to the dedicated mid's level, but maybe audible? :confused:
I think it was mentioned that the mid woofer wouldn't go low enough... After 25 pages of the "tower thread" and no luck finding the number, I'd say definitely >200hz, maybe even 500hz, which would leave a really big gap between speakers/sub, and maybe even making the mid unusable... Another thing to remember, the Sierra-1 is ported, and the mid has its own sealed cabinet compartment... So again, just 'sticking' it in the Sierra-1 cabinet would probably be all wrong with internal volume and ported vs sealed...
And even if the mid could go down to 200hz, as it was most definitely optimized as a mid and to be crossed over to dual 'bass' woofers, it's performance <200hz (<500 hz or whatever) might not really be viable (not as clean; more distortion; sounds worst) when compared to the Sierra-1 woofer... Making it probably not a good idea as a replacement...
So all of that said, I'd be tremendously surprised if it ended up being a good idea for a Sierra upgrade... Sorry! lol ;) (But I'm not the speaker designer genius though, so hope remains... haha)
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I realize as well as the next guy that it may be an impossible dream, but if you don't ask the answer is always no!
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Mag_Neato
Ok, I'm going to put this out there.
With all the focus lately on the new Sierra Towers and Center speaker, let us not forget that some of us do not have the budget, and some do not have the space needed to jump onto the tower bandwagon!
So, what if us Sierra-1 NrT owners desire some of the midrange goodness offered by the towers? Would a replacement driver for the Sierra-1 woofer be something possible? Say, more of a mid driver with less emphasis on the low bass, which is usually handled by a sub. Perhaps something similar to the tower mid driver with the required crossover modification. This way we can have more of the mids that the tower produces?
What do you think, Dave? Sound like something possible?:cool:
OK -- here we go :)
Since work began on the towers, must be at least 3 years ago now --- I have seriously challenged myself on coming up with an affordable bookshelf speaker that uses the mid from the tower and the NrT dome. I have built several prototypes and have had this same conversation during several open house listening sessions with both Ascend owners and non-Ascend owners.
The issue that I continually run into is that to deliver the type of midrange detail and quick transients, the tower mid uses an extremely lightweight cone and the overall suspension / motor system is also very low mass. This mid has the lowest MMS of any 5 1/4" "cone" based woofer I have ever come across and the moving mass of this woofer is actually less than half that of the Sierra-1 woofer. It is the reason why it is capable of delivering tremendous levels of detail with very quick and accurate transients.
Having this low of an MMS comes at price, the mid has a natural roll off that starts in the 180Hz range. I could design a ported version and possibly extend the low end to be -3dB at about 100Hz, but a ported version will not provide the same great transient accuracy and I am not fond of high crossover points to a subwoofer (100Hz etc.)
With that in mind, I built a prototype using this mid, one Sierra-1 woofer and the NrT dome. The problem with this is that there is a significant difference in efficiency between the two different woofers and both the tweeter and the mid have to be padded down by at least 4-5 dB. This 3-way bookshelf speaker, or LCR, would only be slightly less expensive than our Sierra Tower and I was simply not able to get the performance I would have liked. The beauty in the Sierra Tower is that the sensitivity of the dual 5 1/4" woofers match the mid and that matches the NrT dome (and even the RAAL, which has a custom impedance / sensitivity profile for us). There is almost zero padding on any of the transducers in the Sierra Tower which means the efficiency on all the components is maximized.
Keeping the bass response of the Sierra-1 intact is important to me, a very large percentage of our customers use these in 2-way systems without a subwoofer. So, how do we keep the bass response and yet provide even more midrange detail? The NrT upgrade does a good job of this as we cross a bit lower so more midrange detail comes from the tweeter, which is quite robust and can handle it with ease.
Along this same line of thought, I have built a custom Sierra-1 with our RAAL 70-20XR. With this particular ribbon, I can cross even lower and just as important, the slope of the high pass can be shallower. This allows less of the upper mids (the critical area where detail is sensed) to be reproduced by the woofer and instead is reproduced by the most detailed transducer I know of, the RAAL... The results of this combination is exceptional and while not as detailed as our Sierra Tower, for a 2-way bookshelf speaker it has to be amongst the best out there. The problem with this is the expense :( After completing the BOM, the price of our RAAL Sierra-1 will come out to be $1798/pair. Certainly not high for anything with a RAAL tweeter, especially a 70-20XR with AM core -- but, I just don't know if this would be marketable and it will not be possible to "upgrade" existing Sierra-1.
So here is where I look to forum feedback -- at $1798 / pair, would there be demand for a RAAL Sierra-1?
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while not as detailed as our Sierra Tower, for a 2-way bookshelf speaker it has to be amongst the best out there.
So if I understand correctly, for about 15% more, 300$, you could get an NrT tower which would be more detailed? Or are we talking about the RAAL Sierra tower? If the RAAL, how would the NrT tower compare?
Hard to say without hearing, but I think that if the NrT tower was more detailed in the mids and I wanted a ~2000$ speaker, I'd probably opt for the towers, since 300$ isn't that much more, and you do get towers in the end... Just a question like that, would you go for the RAAL bookshelf instead of the NrT towers? :p Because I think that could influence possible answers ;)
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To me, it seems like you would get better midrange detail than a Sierra-1, but not as good as a Tower, and the treble response of Tower w/RAAL.
I would certainly like to hear it.
And we could call it...the Sierra-R....or maybe not.
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First off, props to Dave for considering and actually working on suggestions from customers.
In my opinion, the towers are a no-brainer with either the NrT or RAAL option. You get the luscious mids and highs in an optimal 3-way design.
However, there are customers who cannot fit a tower into their listening environment. I am one of those customers. A Sierra-1 with RAAL would cater to a niche group including, but not limited to:
- those with no space for full towers
- those who prefer two-way bookshelf designs
- those who prefer high-quality sound in a discrete enclosure
However, I think the lack of upgrade path from Sierra-1 to Sierra/RAAL may cause some folks to back down because of the additional investment. I figured it would be extremely difficult to retool an existing S-1 cabinet for a RAAL upgrade.
One thought I had: a "trade up" program might be attractive for those who already own S-1, but I have no idea how much that would affect Ascend's ROI or resale objectives. There would be a lot of B-Stock going this route, and it will impact Ascend's current inventory turnover.
I do have a soft spot for quality bookshelf monitors. I will definitely stay tuned.
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention names. My thought was Sierra-1R. Simple, but descriptive.
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Glad to hear there is experimentation with this concept!
The difference in cost vs. The NrT towers would be the tough choice.
That would be dependent on each persons situation. Having the room for the monitors but not towers..........RAAL vs NrT.......etc.
Space for large speakers is not an issue for me, but cost is. If I could manage $2000 for the towers I'd be sticking with the excellent NrT tweeter. If I wanted the goodness of the ribbon combined with a little better midrange over the Sierra-1 NrT then a Sierra-1R(ribbon) crossed over to my 12" Rythmik would fill the bill.
Tough decision.
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Mag_Neato
Glad to hear there is experimentation with this concept!
The difference in cost vs. The NrT towers would be the tough choice.
That would be dependent on each persons situation. Having the room for the monitors but not towers..........RAAL vs NrT.......etc.
Space for large speakers is not an issue for me, but cost is. If I could manage $2000 for the towers I'd be sticking with the excellent NrT tweeter. If I wanted the goodness of the ribbon combined with a little better midrange over the Sierra-1 NrT then a Sierra-1R(ribbon) crossed over to my 12" Rythmik would fill the bill.
Tough decision.
I was thinking more about this today.
Dave already has a NrT upgrade kit available for stock Sierras. This takes the original design with excellent sound and refines it in several ways. The great thing about the NrT upgrade is that it does not require reengineering the cabinet, and the kit can be installed by the user. However, nearly everything changes with the RAAL upgrade: new cabinet design, new crossover, new tweeter, etc. It is NOT a drop-in replacement kit.
As far as sound quality, I recall that the NrT and RAAL share similar voicing, although the custom RT for Ascend does provide several key advantages over the excellent NrT.
OK, here's my point: the Sierra-1 with RAAL could be attractive for new customers who want a bookshelf monitor, but desire higher-quality sound than either stock or NrT versions provide. However, for customers who already own Sierra-1 systems, the RAAL upgrade would be harder to justify in my opinion, and it still would not offer as much detail as the full Tower system.
On the other hand, Ascend could offer this "exceptional" bookshelf monitor that would be among the very best two-ways at almost any price point.
Decisions, decisions!
Honestly, I would be extremely interested in seeing measurement data comparing the prototype Sierra-1R (had to plug my suggested name) with the existing stock/NrT versions. Of course, a listening session would be great, but since I'm on the East Coast, I'll have to leave it to others.
Just a few thoughts on this Thursday morning.
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Dave,
My thoughts are divided as well. Its tough to justify $1800 for a RAAL bookshelf when the NrT towers with a dedicated mid driver are the same price. On the other hand, if the RAAL bookshelf has an improved mid range presence because of the lower XO point over and above the Nrt sierra-1, then it might be a interesting proposition.
I suppose if someone is after the best tweeter (highs) in a bookshelf, it would be tough to beat.
I suggest letting some folks hear the prototype(if possible) and gauage the feedback. I of course would not mind demoing a pair:p:D Had to throw that out!
Just out of pure curiosity while we are on this subject, if there was a possibility to improve upon the Towers (with RAAL) such as better drivers, different cabinet design, etc, what would you do?
Thanks,
Brandon
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I have seen a few vendors selling 2 way bookshelf for approx 3.5k with same RAAL tweeter. AS someone mentioned, it's a good option for those who have space constraints or for anyone who's interesting in timbre matching their RAAL front stage with RAAL surrounds.
SO,I think there will be a market for this product however, it might be smaller/niche market compared to other Ascend offerings. But, at least the consumers/buyers will have options :-)
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merrymaid520
Dave,
My thoughts are divided as well. Its tough to justify $1800 for a RAAL bookshelf when the NrT towers with a dedicated mid driver are the same price. On the other hand, if the RAAL bookshelf has an improved mid range presence because of the lower XO point over and above the Nrt sierra-1, then it might be a interesting proposition.
I suppose if someone is after the best tweeter (highs) in a bookshelf, it would be tough to beat.
I suggest letting some folks hear the prototype(if possible) and gauage the feedback. I of course would not mind demoing a pair:p:D Had to throw that out!
Just out of pure curiosity while we are on this subject, if there was a possibility to improve upon the Towers (with RAAL) such as better drivers, different cabinet design, etc, what would you do?
Thanks,
Brandon
Now wait just a minute!! Brandon, Dave made the Towers specifically for YOU, so being the one whom started this here thread, the prototype should be sent to ME!!:D
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Dave...the one thing that has really stood out for me since last hearing the Tower w/RAALs is the Dean Peer track "Lord's Tundra". That track has been on my list of tracks when listening to speakers for a long time, along with Ray Montford's "One Witness".
I love (loved?) the way it sounding on my Sierra-1's with the Rythmik, but on the Towers, the sound was much more defined. I am guessing that it is mostly because of the dedicated midrange.
How would you characterize it on the "Sierra-1R" (I concede to Jacob)?
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This is a very interesting conundrum! I do feel like there would be a market for it but I don't feel it would be as big as your other offerings. I'd agree with others that it would be more of a niche offering for those who 1) can't fit a tower, 2) prefers bookshelves, 3) prefers ribbon tweeters, 4) budget constraints, and 5) want a smaller option to the STC with matching ribbon.
If a ribbon tweeter bookshelf was an option when I purchased my tower, I have a feeling that I would have had a very hard time deciding between the two.
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What about a totally different animal; say a Seas 7" Excel Magnesium mated with the 70-20xr RAAL? This would be a bigger, more powerful monitor than the Sierra 1; a Sierra on steroids, so to speak, that would compete with the Joseph Audio Pulsars of the world (a Sierra 2?). I'm one of those who prefers a Monitor over a Tower; the well designed 2-way Monitors do so many things right; they give you point source sound, incredible imaging, and disappear with good recordings.
Or, apparently Dave has some expertise with amplifiers; a powered 2-way monitor would be interesting. Doing the crossover at line level, and tailoring the amp to the specific drivers gives you much better performance than a passive design. Just a thought--
pawsman
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Hello From New Hampshire
I’m a newbie to the forum. I don't know if this can be done, however a possible idea to keep everyone happy would be to have a crossover change switch on the back of speaker. This would have a selectable option for a crossover change that would allow less bottom & more middle for those that want it. It would also require a new circuit board.
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Chops
Hello From New Hampshire
I’m a newbie to the forum. I don't know if this can be done, however a possible idea to keep everyone happy would be to have a crossover change switch on the back of speaker. This would have a selectable option for a crossover change that would allow less bottom & more middle for those that want it. It would also require a new circuit board.
hey Chops...
It isn't about less bottom vs more middle(more detailed middle). With a switch, you still need a driver that can do both, rather than design a specific (better) driver for a narrower application.
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Mag_Neato
Now wait just a minute!! Brandon, Dave made the Towers specifically for YOU, so being the one whom started this here thread, the prototype should be sent to ME!!:D
I'll see what I can do:p
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merrymaid520
I'll see what I can do:p
After giving this some more thought, maybe you would be the best candidate to send the test units to. Afterall, you have the RAAL towers and have more time with them than anyone else aside from Dave himself!:cool:
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Mag_Neato
After giving this some more thought, maybe you would be the best candidate to send the test units to. Afterall, you have the RAAL towers and have more time with them than anyone else aside from Dave himself!:cool:
After I get to hear them at Dave's shop!!
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curtis
After I get to hear them at Dave's shop!!
Oh sure, RUB IT IN!! We can't help that you live so close and we have to rely on UPS/FedEX.
BTW Curtis, I saw a post somewhere where you mentioned some music tracks you now use as your standard speaker test/demo material, but I can't seem to find it again? I think you got the suggestions from Dave.
Any idea? Thanks!
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Mag_Neato
BTW Curtis, I saw a post somewhere where you mentioned some music tracks you now use as your standard speaker test/demo material, but I can't seem to find it again? I think you got the suggestions from Dave.
Any idea? Thanks!
Oh...Dean Peer and Ray Montford. They have been part of my list for a long time...I gave them to Dave.
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I don't think I would spend that much for bookshelves. But I would pay half that for a Center RAAL speaker with similar dimensions to the Sierra. I can't fit a STC Horizon, but I really want a center with a RAAL speaker.
But in either case, I feel it would be a niche market, as others have suggested. Not sure if there would be mass appeal. If I didn't already have RAAL towers and were in the market. I would opt to pay the 15% more for NrT Towers over a RAAL bookshelf.
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Mag_Neato
After giving this some more thought, maybe you would be the best candidate to send the test units to. Afterall, you have the RAAL towers and have more time with them than anyone else aside from Dave himself!:cool:
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curtis
After I get to hear them at Dave's shop!!
I agree. Brandon is arguably one of the best candidates for "beta testing" since he's heard the NrT Sierra-1, NrT Towers, and now owns RAAL Towers. He's got history. :p
Of course, I think some of us (myself included) are a wee bit jealous of Curtis's proximity to Ascend. I am definitely interested in his thoughts if Dave opens the floor to demos. :D
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logicology
I don't think I would spend that much for bookshelves. But I would pay half that for a Center RAAL speaker with similar dimensions to the Sierra. I can't fit a STC Horizon, but I really want a center with a RAAL speaker.
But in either case, I feel it would be a niche market, as others have suggested. Not sure if there would be mass appeal. If I didn't already have RAAL towers and were in the market. I would opt to pay the 15% more for NrT Towers over a RAAL bookshelf.
A Sierra-1 sized center channel with the 70-20XR is a good idea! I've read posts here and at AVS about folks who cannot fit an STC into their setup. This would be a great option for those who want ribbon sweetness, but cannot fit (or afford) the full STC. Actually, this option might end up more popular than the L/R ribbon bookshelves.
Let me say this: I spent the weekend with my new STC (ribbon version) and came away impressed. I have a mini review and pics forthcoming, but after hearing the RAAL I remain very interested in a bookshelf version.
Let me spell it out: yes, I would be willing to shell out $1,800 for a pair of RAAL bookshelves. It's unfortunate that I don't see Towers in my future due to space constraints.
I would also be interested in reviewing a pair of said bookshelves if Dave finds me worthy. :p :D
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Wow, all of this talk of a RAAL version of the Sierra-1 has taken over the thread! I started this thread based on the possiblility of a woofer/crossover upgrade to maybe improve on the mids of the Sierra-1 NrT, as a more cost effective step over the cost of the towers. If there is not a significant cost advantage over the cost of the NrT towers then I would just set my sights on those as space is not an issue here.
Do continue with the RAAL talk though, as it seems Dave has been thinking of doing that.:)
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Dark Ranger
I agree. Brandon is arguably one of the best candidates for "beta testing" since he's heard the NrT Sierra-1, NrT Towers, and now owns RAAL Towers. He's got history. :p
^^^^^ I am going to have to agree with you here^^^^^^^^
:p
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Curtis,
After reading quite a few threads I have been impressed with your responses.
Is the tower mid speaker the same size as the bass so it would fit into the bookshelf?
Would this work as an option by giving more mid detail, while loosing some bass response?
I might rather save the $700 for the RAAL bookshelf & spend it on a sub.
Maybe it would be called the Sierra-1 M
I'd have to spend money for stands for the RAAL book shelves which would end up being the same foot print as the towers. I'd look at the towers as being less then $200 dollars & would probably opt for them.
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Chops
Curtis,
After reading quite a few threads I have been impressed with your responses.
Is the tower mid speaker the same size as the bass so it would fit into the bookshelf?
Would this work as an option by giving more mid detail, while loosing some bass response?
The midrange driver and woofers are approximately the same size, but it isn't some bass you would lose out on...it is A LOT. Not even deep enough to crossover to a sub. So not feasible.
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I posted my first response entirely in jest, but it seems this thread may have gotten out of hand. The Sierra 1 (and it's subsequent upgrade to the NrT) is an awesome stand mount speaker: at it's price point (and several points above!) there is no challenger, IMHO. There are quite a few speaker systems designed for that 80-100Hz cutoff, but none that I would spend money on (most seem to have a 3-4" midrange - ick!). To incorporate the mid bass from the towers into the Sierra just seems backwards to me. The Sierra 1 has incredible bass for it's size (yes, it may be a tad slower than a dedicated midrange driver, but could the majority of us tell the difference if a proper crossover were incorporated?) but with the many room correction systems (of which I use none) it is a completely viable HT speaker. Now, the RAAL tweeter does intrigue me, but, as Dave posted earlier, it would take almost a complete redesign (i.e. port location, etc.) of an already epic enclosure. Also, from what I have read on the 'threads, one might as well shell out the cash money for the towers.
I am always on the hunt for something better, but, for the time being, I am perfectly at home with my Sierra 1 NrTs. I love Dave's style: research, research, test, test, research (ad infinitum) and possibly upgrade...
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It's a fairly difficult choice honestly, lol. Although, if someone is set on RAAL tweeters in a bookshelf, a Sierra-1 center is probably the most sensible option. It's maybe a couple hundred or so less than the NrT Horizon, and it's noticeably smaller for those who are tight on space. It's like an HTM-200 SE in that sense :)
Hm. I suppose I really am just rehashing what others are saying. RAAL bookshelves are an excellent option to have, where towers or stands simply aren't an option themselves.
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Hey everyone...
A quick update to this thread...
While I can not post details just yet, we have made a rather significant investment into the future of the Sierra-1 / Sierra-1 NrT.
Combining our vast experience, our decades old worldwide vendor relationships and our resources - crucial attributes that few, if any, other ID companies can match - work has now begun on something quite special...
Current and future Sierra-1 owners will be very, very happy :D :D
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Dave!! You just made my day!! :eek:
I am very excited to hear this update. You know, every one of your product updates have been significant and worth waiting for:
- Signature Edition for 200/170/340
- NrT upgrade for Sierra-1
- RAAL upgrade for Sierra Towers/STC
...not to mention the original products themselves.
As I've mentioned to you before, I love my Sierra-1s, but I think I will start saving my pennies for whatever you've got cooking. :D
Thank you!!
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Oh boy-oh-boy-oh-boy-oh-boy!!:D
Oh how you are a tease master, Dave! Going to be checking this thread constantly now.
Too bad I'm so broke that I can't even pay attention:(
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Dark Ranger
Dave!! You just made my day!! :eek:
I am very excited to hear this update. You know, every one of your product updates have been significant and worth waiting for:
- Signature Edition for 200/170/340
- NrT upgrade for Sierra-1
- RAAL upgrade for Sierra Towers/STC
...not to mention the original products themselves.
As I've mentioned to you before, I love my Sierra-1s, but I think I will start saving my pennies for whatever you've got cooking. :D
Thank you!!
If all goes as planned, this will be our most significant upgrade yet. The Sierra-1 and Sierra-1 NrT will not change -- this will be an optional "uber performance" upgrade, available as factory new or DIY. I am extremely excited about this and have invested a significant sum to make this happen for you guys :)
This version will firmly place the Sierra-1 into the ranks of the best bookshelf speaker at any price anywhere... Our customers asked for this and we are going to deliver BIG TIME!
Happy 4th!
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GirgleMirt
Interesting... Any ETA?
Difficult to say at this point, within a year though. I still have to work out some details but I believe the most challenging part is done. We are essentially designing and building custom parts from the ground up and committing to large enough purchase quantities to take maximum advantage of volume discounting to keep price points reasonable.
To be perfectly frank, the success of the Sierra towers has allowed us to make a significant investment back into our company and you, our customers, are going to be the beneficiaries :)