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Re: New: Sierra-2EX V2!!!
I’ve moved the 2-EX V2s into the smaller stereo room and the BMRs to the HT room. In my house, the V2s excel in the smaller room. Bass in the HT room is difficult to get right with music. Not worried about movies. I’ll keep tweaking port plugs with the BMR until I get to a good compromise.
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Re: New: Sierra-2EX V2!!!
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Originally Posted by
RicardoJoa
Base on the measurements on ascends and erins corner, the sierra ex 2 V2 is a better measured speaker. It more more balanced top to bottom and more linear directivity. The BMR actually has a slight downward shelving in the bass and roll off highs. It appears though the bmr digs a bit lower.
I have done extensive comparisons between BMRV2 and Sierra-2EXV2. These speakers are so close in performance, with the BMR having deeper bass extension (it should, it is a much larger speaker with about twice the internal cabinet volume) while our Sierra-2EXV2 has more mid-bass information and as such, sounds punchier and livelier.
Dennis often touts how wide the horizontal dispersion of the BMR is, and it is indeed very wide - but our EXV2 is right there with it, it is easy to see that they are pretty much both the same in this regard.
General thoughts was that the wider the horizontal dispersion the more spacious the speaker sounds and I agreed with this, up until the past year or so. With the highly advanced capabilities our NFS gives us, combined with a massive amount of direct customer feedback and live demo's - without any question, there is much more involved in achieving a spacious sound than horizontal dispersion width.
I am starting to see a direct correlation with "spaciousness" and the linearity of both the DI and ERDI, and not so much horizontal dispersion width. The measured DI and ERDI of the Sierra-2EXV2 is more linear with less disparities compared to the BMRV2, that is one of the advantages of a 2-way design compared to a 3-way.
I am also starting to see a correlation with lack of center imaging focus with having horizontal dispersion that is too wide. I don't know what the ideal horizontal dispersion width is (not yet at least ;) ) but while I think wide is preferred, there is definitely a point where too wide is not good.
I'll give an example, we had 3 customers here today and we did some direct A/B comparisons between original ribbon towers and the new ELX ribbon towers. The ELX and originals have the same horizontal dispersion width, but both the DI and ERDI of the ELX is quite a bit more linear with less "kinks", and the ELX sound considerably more spacious.
It is the same with Sierra-2EX vs Sierra-2EX V2, both speakers have the same horizontal dispersion width, but the major improvements with the EXV2 was in achieving a more linear DI and ERDI, which is easy to see in the measurements. The EXV2 does sound more spacious than the original Sierra-2EX.
It is a very interesting study thus far. I enjoy being at the forefront of this emerging technology and I also enjoy freely sharing this info.
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I have been suffering from "paralysis by analysis" the last month in regards to speakers. I assume others here have suffered from this as well on occassion! I have been running Sierra-2s as my main front speakers since early 2015, supported by 2 subs crossed at 80 Hz. I've always loved them and really had no desire to change them out or upgrade them until recently. I happened to hear Philharmonic BMR monitors about a month ago. I thought they were very reminiscent of my Sierra-2s except the BMRs midrange had a more present and cleaner upper mid-range that I immediately noticed. So I started thinking about improving my front main speakers. I have been going back and forth debating between Philharmonic BMRs, Sierra-LXs, Sierra Towers, 340SEv2s, and upgrading my current S2s to S2-EXv2s.
I was literally going back and forth changing my mind daily. I finally made a list of all the pros and cons of each as it relates to my situation, and I won't go through all the factors I weighed, but the best choice in the end for me was to go ahead and just upgrade my existing S2 speakers to EXv2s. I really hope I detect much improvement when it arrives. Based on all the feedback here from other posters I think I will.
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Originally Posted by
dislocatedday
I have been suffering from "paralysis by analysis" the last month in regards to speakers. I assume others here have suffered from this as well on occassion! I have been running Sierra-2s as my main front speakers since early 2015, supported by 2 subs crossed at 80 Hz. I've always loved them and really had no desire to change them out or upgrade them until recently. I happened to hear Philharmonic BMR monitors about a month ago. I thought they were very reminiscent of my Sierra-2s except the BMRs midrange had a more present and cleaner upper mid-range that I immediately noticed. So I started thinking about improving my front main speakers. I have been going back and forth debating between Philharmonic BMRs, Sierra-LXs, Sierra Towers, 340SEv2s, and upgrading my current S2s to S2-EXv2s.
I was literally going back and forth changing my mind daily. I finally made a list of all the pros and cons of each as it relates to my situation, and I won't go through all the factors I weighed, but the best choice in the end for me was to go ahead and just upgrade my existing S2 speakers to EXv2s. I really hope I detect much improvement when it arrives. Based on all the feedback here from other posters I think I will.
I hope your best recovery after the upgrade 😂. One of the things I noticed when upgraded to the ex woofer is that it sounded like a bigger speaker compare to the sierra 2. It also has more tactile fell from the bass even if you cross over to the sub.
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Originally Posted by
davef
I have done extensive comparisons between BMRV2 and Sierra-2EXV2. These speakers are so close in performance, with the BMR having deeper bass extension (it should, it is a much larger speaker with about twice the internal cabinet volume) while our Sierra-2EXV2 has more mid-bass information and as such, sounds punchier and livelier.
Dennis often touts how wide the horizontal dispersion of the BMR is, and it is indeed very wide - but our EXV2 is right there with it, it is easy to see that they are pretty much both the same in this regard.
General thoughts was that the wider the horizontal dispersion the more spacious the speaker sounds and I agreed with this, up until the past year or so. With the highly advanced capabilities our NFS gives us, combined with a massive amount of direct customer feedback and live demo's - without any question, there is much more involved in achieving a spacious sound than horizontal dispersion width.
I am starting to see a direct correlation with "spaciousness" and the linearity of both the DI and ERDI, and not so much horizontal dispersion width. The measured DI and ERDI of the Sierra-2EXV2 is more linear with less disparities compared to the BMRV2, that is one of the advantages of a 2-way design compared to a 3-way.
I am also starting to see a correlation with lack of center imaging focus with having horizontal dispersion that is too wide. I don't know what the ideal horizontal dispersion width is (not yet at least ;) ) but while I think wide is preferred, there is definitely a point where too wide is not good.
I'll give an example, we had 3 customers here today and we did some direct A/B comparisons between original ribbon towers and the new ELX ribbon towers. The ELX and originals have the same horizontal dispersion width, but both the DI and ERDI of the ELX is quite a bit more linear with less "kinks", and the ELX sound considerably more spacious.
It is the same with Sierra-2EX vs Sierra-2EX V2, both speakers have the same horizontal dispersion width, but the major improvements with the EXV2 was in achieving a more linear DI and ERDI, which is easy to see in the measurements. The EXV2 does sound more spacious than the original Sierra-2EX.
It is a very interesting study thus far. I enjoy being at the forefront of this emerging technology and I also enjoy freely sharing this info.
No doubt about the achievements. Im getting my itch now :)
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Originally Posted by
ahender
I’ve moved the 2-EX V2s into the smaller stereo room and the BMRs to the HT room. In my house, the V2s excel in the smaller room. Bass in the HT room is difficult to get right with music. Not worried about movies. I’ll keep tweaking port plugs with the BMR until I get to a good compromise.
Do you use sub? Any possible way to EQ?
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RicardoJoa
Do you use sub? Any possible way to EQ?
Thanks. I've been tweaking different port plugs and have one which does sound better in pure direct mode. In stereo mode, it is crossed over to the sub. No real difference on the low end between the two as far as which one I prefer.
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Originally Posted by
ahender
Thanks. I've been tweaking different port plugs and have one which does sound better in pure direct mode. In stereo mode, it is crossed over to the sub. No real difference on the low end between the two as far as which one I prefer.
Ok since you have a sub, try changing the sub where it faces and see it makes a difference. I know some people believe that it should not be matter since at those frequencies are omnidirectional, but in my case, i found facing away the mlp and towards the right had the least effect on room mode. I also use rew to help me figure what the offensive frequencies are and tame down by using peq. Plugging the port can sometimes have great effect on sub integration. At least ot is what I had experienced.
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Originally Posted by
RicardoJoa
Ok since you have a sub, try changing the sub where it faces and see it makes a difference. I know some people believe that it should not be matter since at those frequencies are omnidirectional, but in my case, i found facing away the mlp and towards the right had the least effect on room mode. I also use rew to help me figure what the offensive frequencies are and tame down by using peq. Plugging the port can sometimes have great effect on sub integration. At least ot is what I had experienced.
Thanks. My sub is front-ported and resides in a cabinet. No option to change it’s direction.
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ahender
Thanks. My sub is front-ported and resides in a cabinet. No option to change it’s direction.
I guess you might want to try peq.
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For those that have the 2EX V2…
Are you using it for HT, music, or both?
If music, what genres, artists do you listen to?
Are you crossing over with a subwoofer for music?
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Originally Posted by
High Fidelity
For those that have the 2EX V2…
Are you using it for HT, music, or both?
If music, what genres, artists do you listen to?
Are you crossing over with a subwoofer for music?
They were in my HT room then moved to my stereo room. 75% newer recorded acoustic and Americana, 25% from my decades old CDs ripped to flac files. The majority of the Americana musicians are female. Lillie Mae, Sierra Hull, I’m With Her, Wailin’ Jennys, etc.
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Originally Posted by
High Fidelity
For those that have the 2EX V2…
Are you using it for HT, music, or both?
If music, what genres, artists do you listen to?
Are you crossing over with a subwoofer for music?
Music only.
I'm fortunate to have a small dedicated stereo room.
I listen to rock, jazz, blues, and classical.
I don't stream in the stereo room, I not entirely sure why. I run two turntables, and a CDP/DAC combo.
I initially ran a sub (KEF R400b) with my 2EX V2's running full range, and the sub augmenting the bottom end. Basically using the REL Method. It didn't take me long to discover that in my room the 2EX V2's didn't really need the sub.
This is the first time in over 30 years that I'm not using a subwoofer in that room. Some of my previous loudspeakers were much larger, and more expensive than the 2EX V2's. This pleasantly surprised me.
The 2EX V2's have a purity that is addicting, and more than enough power/dynamics for my small room. The sub will be looking for a new home this spring.
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Originally Posted by
High Fidelity
For those that have the 2EX V2…
Are you using it for HT, music, or both?
If music, what genres, artists do you listen to?
Are you crossing over with a subwoofer for music?
Both
Mostly R&B and hip hop
Crossed over to 3 hsu 15s at 80hz
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I received my Sierra-2 to Sierra-2EX V2 upgrade kits yesterday afternoon. I had been running the original Sierra-2s for over 7 years, and always enjoyed them and had never really considered replacing or upgrading them. However, curiosity got the best of me after reading about the new V2 crossover that was developed using the Klippel NFS, and so I figured I would just go ahead and get the new EX mid-woofers and the updated V2 crossovers.
Despite the positive reviews on the EX upgrades, I'll admit that I was skeptical that I would notice much difference after doing the upgrades. I was prepared to be disappointed. After updating both of my speakers last night, it was the finally the moment of truth as I placed them back on their stands and reconnected the speaker cables. I put some music on, and almost immediately a big smile came across my face. These were noticeably different and improved to my ears compared to the original Sierra 2s, and it was very easy to hear those differences/improvements.
All the things people stated here before about the EX upgrades I noticed. If I had to simplify the improvements in one sentence I would simply state the entire speaker sounds smoother, cleaner, and effortless across its entire frequency range. The upper midrange/lower treble region was the one area where I felt the Sierra 2s might be lacking, but that is much improved now. I also felt like sometimes the Sierra 2s sounded a little bright in the treble as I turned up the volume, but that is no longer the case. I felt like I could keep turning up the volume last night as it never seemed strained in the treble. There is also a bit more warmth with the EXs, but there is no bloated mid bass which I often find with speakers described as "warm".
I did see one person previously mention that they felt like the center image was more stable now, and I noticed that as well. In fact, everything within the soundstage seems even more in its own place or spot now. This goes back to everything sounding cleaner to me. I don't know what factors are contributing to this......I know Dave has indicated there is less distortion now, and the power handling is improved. Maybe these are the reasons I perceive these upgrades as so much cleaner sounding? I never really thought I heard distortion before, but perhaps I was. Regardless I am thrilled with the improvements. I do use two subs with them, so today I am going to play around with different crossover points.
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Originally Posted by
RicardoJoa
Hi , I noticed that in the 100-300 hz range , the LX has much flatter response over the EX . What does this translate sonically and is it something i can EQ boost it on a pair of EX?
Hi Ricardo,
I'm not seeing this, unless you are describing a slight 1dB droop in this range compared to the LX as being much flatter? Differences of 1dB are generally not audible, but of course you can add 1dB of boost in this range (or more) if you prefer.
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davef
Hi Ricardo,
I'm not seeing this, unless you are describing a slight 1dB droop in this range compared to the LX as being much flatter? Differences of 1dB are generally not audible, but of course you can add 1dB of boost in this range (or more) if you prefer.
Thanks Dave for clarification. I sent you an email the end of last year and i hope you got it, regarding ex2 upgrade.
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What is the crossover frequency of the V2?
I searched this thread and the purchase page and I'm not finding it.
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Natural1
What is the crossover frequency of the V2?
I see this question get asked once in a while.
No disrespect to those that ask the question, but does it play a part in your decision to purchase? If so, why(especially given Dave's history)? Or is it just a curiosity question?
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For me it's a curiosity question. I already have the V2s in my office system.
I wanted to play around with some of the techniques here. I've learned a lot from his other videos as well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKeHyT7Xgo
So, I'd like the know the crossover frequency of the V2s as well as the "order" (slopes) of the crossover.
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Originally Posted by
Natural1
For me it's a curiosity question. I already have the V2s in my office system.
I wanted to play around with some of the techniques here. I've learned a lot from his other videos as well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKeHyT7Xgo
So, I'd like the know the crossover frequency of the V2s as well as the "order" (slopes) of the crossover.
I had a quick look and I would wonder what Dave would say about it. Seems suspect to me.
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curtis
I had a quick look and I would wonder what Dave would say about it. Seems suspect to me.
I was thinking the same thing on that one. But for sure his info on general PEQ and multi-sub optimization in other videos has been very informative and fun to play around with.
The one I linked above... yeah I suspect might have some really odd issues associated with it. For me, I just want to experiment and learn what the audible results are, especially since I already have the tools and it costs nothing to see what happens. Good or bad doesn't really matter, you always learn something.
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Originally Posted by
Natural1
For me it's a curiosity question. I already have the V2s in my office system.
I wanted to play around with some of the techniques here. I've learned a lot from his other videos as well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgKeHyT7Xgo
So, I'd like the know the crossover frequency of the V2s as well as the "order" (slopes) of the crossover.
OK - I had a chance to watch this. It is one thing to create an overall room correction frequency response curve or to create a specific house curve, I have no issues with that. It can be fun to play around with this.
However, it appears he is also trying to correct for passive crossover phase shift. I absolutely do not recommend attempting this. This person is making far too many generalizations regarding crossovers and phase, in fact - making any phase adjustments (or rephase as he calls it) will basically completely undo all of the benefits of our NFS optimizations.
That stated, Sierra-2EX V2 acoustic crossover point is at ~3300Hz. These are 4th order asymmetrical acoustic slopes.
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Originally Posted by
davef
OK - I had a chance to watch this. It is one thing to create an overall room correction frequency response curve or to create a specific house curve, I have no issues with that. It can be fun to play around with this.
However, it appears he is also trying to correct for passive crossover phase shift. I absolutely do not recommend attempting this. This person is making far too many generalizations regarding crossovers and phase, in fact - making any phase adjustments (or rephase as he calls it) will basically completely undo all of the benefits of our NFS optimizations.
That stated, Sierra-2EX V2 acoustic crossover point is at ~3300Hz. These are 4th order asymmetrical acoustic slopes.
Thank you Dave! I'm not surprised to hear that part of the program is a bad idea, very much square peg/round hole.
His knowledge of REW is extensive to say the least, and I have found his videos to be very helpful and I've picked up a lot of good tips with respect to general PEQ design, speaker-to-speaker time alignment, multi-sub alignment, and sub-to-main crossover and time alignment.
I don't run a sub in my office, and currently my Sierra2EX V2s are running on my "pre-V2" set of PEQ filters in Equalizer APO, under 250 Hz only. I'll likely stick with this idea for the V2s. I do want to re-do measurements with the new crossovers and I'm guessing the bass range really hasn't changed with the new crossovers (why would it?), so my old filters are probably still good. I know I have a slight time alignment issue between the 2 speakers and I'll adjust for this in EQ APO once I take measurements. Just haven't had time to look at it yet.
All this stuff is such a huge rabbit hole (with some dead ends), but it is fun for those that like to dig into things. REW itself is truly amazing with all of it's knobs, levers, and switches. I'm surprised it can't make coffee. Maybe I just haven't found that setting :)
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Originally Posted by
Natural1
I do want to re-do measurements with the new crossovers and I'm guessing the bass range really hasn't changed with the new crossovers (why would it?), so my old filters are probably still good.
On this topic, the graphs and subjective reviews have stated differences in the lows and highs far from the crossover. The on-axis response has only changed subtly but the off-axis seem to have changed significantly outside of the crossover region. In particular, the estimated in-room response above 5kHz is dramatically different with v2.
Dave, can you explain how the crossover change impacts the low bass and upper treble? And thanks so much for continuing to share your knowledge and experience over the years!
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Originally Posted by
Fantom
On this topic, the graphs and subjective reviews have stated differences in the lows and highs far from the crossover. The on-axis response has only changed subtly but the off-axis seem to have changed significantly outside of the crossover region. In particular, the estimated in-room response above 5kHz is dramatically different with v2.
I still haven't gotten back to this yet. When I do I'll try to show some pre and post upgrade data. Should be interesting.
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Originally Posted by
Fantom
On this topic, the graphs and subjective reviews have stated differences in the lows and highs far from the crossover. The on-axis response has only changed subtly but the off-axis seem to have changed significantly outside of the crossover region. In particular, the estimated in-room response above 5kHz is dramatically different with v2.
Dave, can you explain how the crossover change impacts the low bass and upper treble? And thanks so much for continuing to share your knowledge and experience over the years!
Hi Fantom,
I am not exactly sure what you are asking, I have made many posts in this thread discussing the differences between original and V2. There are no differences in the low-end extension between Sierra-2EX and Sierra-2EX V2. With the V2, there is approximately 1.5dB-2dB more midbass energy, and we came up with a different method to integrate the RAAL ribbon with the woofer, this results in better overall directivity. This is the major change from V1 to V2.
If you are asking me precisely how we accomplished this, I am sorry but I am not going to publicly post these details.
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Originally Posted by
davef
There are no differences in the low-end extension between Sierra-2EX and Sierra-2EX V2. With the V2, there is approximately 1.5dB-2dB more midbass energy, and we came up with a different method to integrate the RAAL ribbon with the woofer, this results in better overall directivity. This is the major change from V1 to V2.
If you are asking me precisely how we accomplished this, I am sorry but I am not going to publicly post these details.
Thanks for the comments! I of course don't expect you to divulge secrets here. I'll rephrase my question.
You say the crossover frequency is around 3300Hz. So I can understand that a crossover change would impact frequencies around 3300Hz plus or minus. What's perhaps not expected is that this leads to a midbass boost and changes to directivity even well above 5kHz. Can you comment on how that works?
I've been enjoying the v2 for awhile now. I've noticed these stated improvements in my main listening position. The largest improvement I've noticed is when sitting at the dining table off to the side of the speakers (fairly open apt layout), which has also been great. I'm just trying to learn more if you are able to speak on the topic without giving away the proprietary recipe. Thanks!
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In case you miss this, here's my latest frequency response graph taken with REW of my Sierra-2EX V2's!
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Great looking room response! Running full range no sub?
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Originally Posted by
Fantom
Thanks for the comments! I of course don't expect you to divulge secrets here. I'll rephrase my question.
You say the crossover frequency is around 3300Hz. So I can understand that a crossover change would impact frequencies around 3300Hz plus or minus. What's perhaps not expected is that this leads to a midbass boost and changes to directivity even well above 5kHz. Can you comment on how that works?
When we mention a crossover change, it is the complete crossover network that is changed. A crossover in a speaker is much more than where the response of the woofer and tweeter "cross". Our crossovers contain impedance compensation circuits, padding, equalization, baffle step compensation and there is also the Q and slope "rate" of the high pass and low pass filters.
In the case of Sierra-2EX V2, everything I mentioned above has been changed.
We are able to achieve more midbass by lowering impedance and inductance in this range, and also by better balancing the mids and highs to this midbass frequency range.
Hope this makes sense!
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Mag_Neato
In case you miss this, here's my latest frequency response graph taken with REW of my Sierra-2EX V2's!
That is fantastic and does closely correspond with the predicted in-room response of the Sierra-2EX V2.
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merrymaid520
Great looking room response! Running full range no sub?
Crossed at 80hz to dual Rythmiks. No EQ above 80hz. Not sure why the bass is rolling off like that. I have a MiniDSP 2x4HD EQ'ing the subs, but I recently changed DACs and now have both subs on isolation devices, so that may have affected things.
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Mag_Neato
Crossed at 80hz to dual Rythmiks. No EQ above 80hz. Not sure why the bass is rolling off like that. I have a MiniDSP 2x4HD EQ'ing the subs, but I recently changed DACs and now have both subs on isolation devices, so that may have affected things.
That’s right! You have dual rythmiks as well:)
How bigs the room? I’m surprised there’s not more low end output. Maybe a setting on the Dac? Above 80hz is impressively flat!!
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merrymaid520
That’s right! You have dual rythmiks as well:)
How bigs the room? I’m surprised there’s not more low end output. Maybe a setting on the Dac? Above 80hz is impressively flat!!
There's no setting adjustments for the DAC, it's the onboard section in my Parasound P6. The room is above the garage. 11' wide, angled ceiling to 8', 27' long. The knee walls are about 5' up before transitioning to angled ceiling. My friend who helped me with REW said his system measures flatter down low, using Dirac Live with dual 15" sealed Rythmiks, yet my system sounded better to him in the bass.
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Mag_Neato
There's no setting adjustments for the DAC, it's the onboard section in my Parasound P6. The room is above the garage. 11' wide, angled ceiling to 8', 27' long. The knee walls are about 5' up before transitioning to angled ceiling. My friend who helped me with REW said his system measures flatter down low, using Dirac Live with dual 15" sealed Rythmiks, yet my system sounded better to him in the bass.
I had a P5 and now the P7. Could it be a bass management setting on it? Or maybe it’s just the room…and where your mic was positioned…could be a null.
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merrymaid520
I had a P5 and now the P7. Could it be a bass management setting on it? Or maybe it’s just the room…and where your mic was positioned…could be a null.
The MiniDSP is being fed from the sub out with the low pass filter either at 80hz or switched off, can't recall. I will have to dig into the MiniDSP settings again now that I have a working laptop with the software on it. There is definitely a null in the room which is why I added the 2nd sub. I played around with placement and got the 2 subs to sum with an elevated response, then applied a correction curve to knock down the peaks and also applied a rising response from 80 - 20hz of 10db. It measured fine when I did that, but like I said, I've made a few changes since then including isolation platform/footers under the subs. It still sounds great though. As I said, my friend who helped me take the REW measurements uses an Anthem AVM 90 with Dirac Live, has dual 15" sealed high output Rythmiks, and loves how the bass in my system sounds vs his. Go figure?
Correction: His AVM 90 uses ARC Genesis room correction!
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Originally Posted by
Mag_Neato
The MiniDSP is being fed from the sub out with the low pass filter either at 80hz or switched off, can't recall. I will have to dig into the MiniDSP settings again now that I have a working laptop with the software on it. There is definitely a null in the room which is why I added the 2nd sub. I played around with placement and got the 2 subs to sum with an elevated response, then applied a correction curve to knock down the peaks and also applied a rising response from 80 - 20hz of 10db. It measured fine when I did that, but like I said, I've made a few changes since then including isolation platform/footers under the subs. It still sounds great though. As I said, my friend who helped me take the REW measurements uses an Anthem AVM 90 with Dirac Live, has dual 15" sealed high output Rythmiks, and loves how the bass in my system sounds vs his. Go figure?
Correction: His AVM 90 uses ARC Genesis room correction!
Im not familiar with the miniDSP, I use the Behringer FBD for EQing. Hope you get it worked out! Dual Rythmiks are awesome! I have two setups worth of them and am always impressed each time I fire them up!
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merrymaid520
Im not familiar with the miniDSP, I use the Behringer FBD for EQing. Hope you get it worked out! Dual Rythmiks are awesome! I have two setups worth of them and am always impressed each time I fire them up!
I have 2 dual Rythmik systems as well! My living room HT setup has dual front ported LV12's.