ELX Horizon Questions

[themarkkram]

Hi -

I just received and hooked up my new ELX Horizon and I have a couple of questions. First, there are foam "inserts" or small plugs in both the front ports. Are these there for shipping or need to be in place as part of the speaker?

Secondly, when I run Audyssey I get a phase error for the Horizon. I just ignored the error, but I just wanted to confirm. It sounds great, so not sure what is going on.

Many thanks

Mark

[racrawford65]

I don't recall my Horizon ports being plugged but it's been awhile. They should be removed when using the speaker.

I've seen the phase error from Audyssey posted previously and, as I recall, just ignore it.

[natetg57]

Hi -

I just received and hooked up my new ELX Horizon and I have a couple of questions. First, there are foam "inserts" or small plugs in both the front ports. Are these there for shipping or need to be in place as part of the speaker?

Secondly, when I run Audyssey I get a phase error for the Horizon. I just ignored the error, but I just wanted to confirm. It sounds great, so not sure what is going on.

Many thanks

Mark

The 2nd version of the Lunas and Duos have foam inserts. Maybe it's intentional?

[racrawford65]

As I recall the foam inserts for the Luna/Duo are internal, not in the port.

[natetg57]

As I recall the foam inserts for the Luna/Duo are internal, not in the port.

It's true that there is additional padding inside of the speaker but each port has two foam inserts that are visible.

[davef]

Hi -

I just received and hooked up my new ELX Horizon and I have a couple of questions. First, there are foam "inserts" or small plugs in both the front ports. Are these there for shipping or need to be in place as part of the speaker?

Secondly, when I run Audyssey I get a phase error for the Horizon. I just ignored the error, but I just wanted to confirm. It sounds great, so not sure what is going on.

Many thanks

Mark

Pleased to hear that the ELX Horizon arrived safe and sound. We have been shipping a ton of them these past few weeks.


I just received and hooked up my new ELX Horizon and I have a couple of questions. First, there are foam "inserts" or small plugs in both the front ports. Are these there for shipping or need to be in place as part of the speaker?

Please leave the dampeners as is. The ELX Horizons now come with these installed, they are there to dampen spurious slot port resonances and fully optimize bass tuning.


Secondly, when I run Audyssey I get a phase error for the Horizon. I just ignored the error, but I just wanted to confirm. It sounds great, so not sure what is going on.

Yes, please hit ignore. Audyssey doesn't seem to like the full range bass response and advanced crossover of the ELX, it is a common error with Audyssey (not just with our speakers, but with many full range speakers). When and if my time clears up a bit, I will look into this more as to how Audyssey actually measures the in-room phase response.

https://ask.audyssey.com/hc/en-us/articles/212347823-Speaker-polarity

What speakers are you using as your left / right?

[davef]

It's true that there is additional padding inside of the speaker but each port has two foam inserts that are visible.

100% correct. Slot ports are problematic with regard to port resonance. We have developed a unique solution to this.

[racrawford65]

Dave,
Do those of us with ELX Horizon without these dampers need to add them?

[davef]

Dave,
Do those of us with ELX Horizon without these dampers need to add them?

No, you have the domestic cabinets - slightly different than the newer cabinets.

[racrawford65]

thanks, Dave.
Best regards,
Robert

[themarkkram]

Pleased to hear that the ELX Horizon arrived safe and sound. We have been shipping a ton of them these past few weeks.



Please leave the dampeners as is. The ELX Horizons now come with these installed, they are there to dampen spurious slot port resonances and fully optimize bass tuning.



Yes, please hit ignore. Audyssey doesn't seem to like the full range bass response and advanced crossover of the ELX, it is a common error with Audyssey (not just with our speakers, but with many full range speakers). When and if my time clears up a bit, I will look into this more as to how Audyssey actually measures the in-room phase response.

https://ask.audyssey.com/hc/en-us/articles/212347823-Speaker-polarity

What speakers are you using as your left / right?

Thanks Dave! Appreciate the answer. Funny, i started to remove the dampers and thought before I do, I should ask the question, lol.

The Audyssey error only occurs when it measures the Horizon, and I am using the LX as my L/R. No issues with these.

At any rate, the entire systems now sounds awesome. I have only had time to demo a few scenes and it is a huge improvement. Many thanks!

Mark

[natetg57]

Thanks Dave! Appreciate the answer. Funny, i started to remove the dampers and thought before I do, I should ask the question, lol.

The Audyssey error only occurs when it measures the Horizon, and I am using the LX as my L/R. No issues with these.

At any rate, the entire systems now sounds awesome. I have only had time to demo a few scenes and it is a huge improvement. Many thanks!

Mark

I have the exact opposite front three, ELX Towers with an LX center. Sounds awesome as well. I get the same Audyssey phase warning with my towers.

[davef]

Indeed, this message seems to only come up with Audyssey. The ELX (and tower/horizon V2) crossovers are quite a bit different than a typical parallel crossover network. This started as a unique idea I had a long time ago when I started working on our first towers, but eventually gave up on it and settled for a typical 3-way parallel design.

Our Klippel NFS combined with advancements in modeling gave me the resources to finally achieve what I envisioned about 15 years ago, and it performs better than I imagined. But, it seems, at the cost of Audyssey spitting out an annoying message in some installations.