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soundfreak38
12-31-2008, 05:42 PM
Hello, I noticed that the stands for the 340's are 24" tall. Given that the 340's are 21" tall, that would put the tweeter at about 35" when placed on the stands. So, optimal ear height is around 35" from the floor. Am, I correct here? If not, what do you consider to be the correct distance from the floor then? I am aware that some people are taller than others and as such have larger ear heights respectively. My guess is, that 35" would be a good reference point for comparative purposes. Just curious is all. Have a Happy and Safe New Yearl!!!!!!

Cheers,

Phil

STRONGBADF1
01-01-2009, 07:03 AM
Hello, I noticed that the stands for the 340's are 24" tall. Given that the 340's are 21" tall, that would put the tweeter at about 35" when placed on the stands. So, optimal ear height is around 35" from the floor. Am, I correct here? If not, what do you consider to be the correct distance from the floor then? I am aware that some people are taller than others and as such have larger ear heights respectively. My guess is, that 35" would be a good reference point for comparative purposes. Just curious is all. Have a Happy and Safe New Yearl!!!!!!

Cheers,

Phil

Hey Phil, I didn't realize that it was you until I noticed your avatar!:)

I just measures my 340se's with the matching stands. Without spikes (I have felt pads under them for the time being) to the center of the tweeter is just about 33". I believe that the height is just an average ear height for average people on an average seat??? I don't believe that there is a optimum ear height...That would probable be room dependant...:confused: Maybe Dave F. could shed more light on the subject.

Happy New Year,
Doug

jvillas
01-01-2009, 09:06 AM
Yes ,if your tweeter height is 35", your optimal ear position should also be 35", but, believe me this is rarely the case. Your best compromise would be having your tweeters positioned above rather than below your ears. For that matter I would never recommend having tweeters placed below your ear height. How much above? 2" or 3" should not matter.

Be sure to measure your ear height at your listening probably seated position.

soundfreak38
01-01-2009, 10:12 AM
Hey Phil, I didn't realize that it was you until I noticed your avatar!:)

I just measures my 340se's with the matching stands. Without spikes (I have felt pads under them for the time being) to the center of the tweeter is just about 33". I believe that the height is just an average ear height for average people on an average seat??? I don't believe that there is a optimum ear height...That would probable be room dependant...:confused: Maybe Dave F. could shed more light on the subject.

Happy New Year,
Doug

Hey Doug!!!! Happy New Year to you as well my friend. :):) Yeah, it kinda looks like there really is no optimum ear height. I do know mine would be on the lower end of the scale given that I am not very tall. :p:p However, I was just trying to ascertain a height that would fit most people. My guess is, 33"-36" would all work about the same. Perhaps, Dave could chime in here whenever he finds the time. Once again Doug, it is good to hear from you. Hope all is well. ;);)

Cheers,

Phil

soundfreak38
01-01-2009, 10:18 AM
Yes ,if your tweeter height is 35", your optimal ear position should also be 35", but, believe me this is rarely the case. Your best compromise would be having your tweeters positioned above rather than below your ears. For that matter I would never recommend having tweeters placed below your ear height. How much above? 2" or 3" should not matter.

Be sure to measure your ear height at your listening probably seated position.
Interesting info. My stands are 29" so that puts the tweeters on my 340's at about 40". I believe that is a bit too high. As always, I could be wrong. I plan to modify my stands so that they too will be 24" tall. I also plan to make the top plate a bit larger to accommodate my 340's a bit better. It looks to be an easy modification. Thanks for your input. Happy New Year to you.

Cheers,

Phil

curtis
01-01-2009, 10:42 AM
Interesting info. My stands are 29" so that puts the tweeters on my 340's at about 40". I believe that is a bit too high. As always, I could be wrong. I plan to modify my stands so that they too will be 24" tall. I also plan to make the top plate a bit larger to accommodate my 340's a bit better. It looks to be an easy modification. Thanks for your input. Happy New Year to you.

The stands I used for my 340's were 31" high. I sit about 10 feet from the speakers. Even at that height it is still well within the listening window.

soundfreak38
01-01-2009, 12:48 PM
The stands I used for my 340's were 31" high. I sit about 10 feet from the speakers. Even at that height it is still well within the listening window.
Hi Curtis and thanks for posting. My listening position is about 6' from my 340's. As such, would that make any difference? The reason I ask is because your seating position is further back. Happy New Year to you.

Cheers,

Phil

jvillas
01-01-2009, 02:28 PM
Hi soundfreak38, here are a couple of past threads to look at. Hope this helps you. Plus there are a few more.

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/showthread.php?t=2329&highlight=speaker+height

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/showthread.php?t=2168&highlight=speaker+height

soundfreak38
01-01-2009, 03:54 PM
Hi soundfreak38, here are a couple of past threads to look at. Hope this helps you. Plus there are a few more.

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/showthread.php?t=2329&highlight=speaker+height

http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/showthread.php?t=2168&highlight=speaker+height
Thanks JV for the links. The second one seems like dejavu. I just have a lot of work ahead of me once I start to fine tune everything. After all, I ONLY have to please myself as I reside alone. Happy New Year to you! ;);)

Cheers,

Phil

jvillas
01-01-2009, 05:05 PM
Thank you, and Happy New Year to you. You know after so many years, I will still tweak my speakers now and than. Sometimes up,sometimes down, more toe in or less. I will move them closer to me or further. I'll bring them closer together or further apart. I guess I'm a little neurotic, or should I say a perfectionist, and I"m strictly a 2, 2.1 channel music fan. I just can't imagine if I had a HT set-up.

soundfreak38
01-01-2009, 05:33 PM
Thank you, and Happy New Year to you. You know after so many years, I will still tweak my speakers now and than. Sometimes up,sometimes down, more toe in or less. I will move them closer to me or further. I'll bring them closer together or further apart. I guess I'm a little neurotic, or should I say a perfectionist, and I"m strictly a 2, 2.1 channel music fan. I just can't imagine if I had a HT set-up.
jv, I understand your point of being neurotic as I have those tendencies as well. :eek::eek: However, as time goes by I seem to be a bit more laid-back and passive up to a point. I have owned everything from Athena, Cerwin Vega, Paradigm, Infinity Primus, Polk, and finally Ascend. Like you, I am all about music.

With that being said, I just love my 340's. Many say they are better than the Paradigm Studio 40's. Personally, I never have cared for the 40's. Hence, the 340's are much better imho. Musically speaking, the 340's are very impressive. The combination of my 340's and my dual LFM-1Pluses do it for me. Even with ht, I am very happy. Once again, I would like to say thank you to Dave for (1) for designing excellent sounding speakers AND (2) offering them at very affordable prices. :):) Kudos to Dave for doing so. ;);)

Cheers,

Phil

davef
01-05-2009, 12:15 AM
Hi Guys,

With the 340 mains, ideal vertical height is achieved within a +/- 15 degree listening window. I also recommend a minimum height of 18" off the floor. The farther back you are from the speakers, the larger this window becomes. At ten feet back, the vertical listening window is approximately 5.5' If the tweeter is at 35", as long as you are within +/- 2.75', you are sitting within the ideal vertical listening window...

curtis
01-05-2009, 09:13 AM
Hey Dave....15 degrees, and 10 feet back, is that window 5.5 inches or feet?

Mag_Neato
01-05-2009, 10:04 AM
Feet. 10 feet at 30 degrees(+/-15 deg.) = 64.31" roughly. So 5.5' is close enough for government work!

davef
01-05-2009, 01:37 PM
Hey Dave....15 degrees, and 10 feet back, is that window 5.5 inches or feet?

Doh, that should be 5.5 feet (+/- 2.75') :o

soundfreak38
01-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Hi Guys,

With the 340 mains, ideal vertical height is achieved within a +/- 15 degree listening window. I also recommend a minimum height of 18" off the floor. The farther back you are from the speakers, the larger this window becomes. At ten feet back, the vertical listening window is approximately 5.5' If the tweeter is at 35", as long as you are within +/- 2.75', you are sitting within the ideal vertical listening window...
Thanks dave for your help. Perhaps I am being a bit too anal regarding this. However, I am just trying to get everything dialed in just right. Appreciate your input! ;);) Hope all is well for you.

Cheers,

Phil

davef
01-09-2009, 05:55 PM
Thanks dave for your help. Perhaps I am being a bit too anal regarding this. However, I am just trying to get everything dialed in just right. Appreciate your input! ;);) Hope all is well for you.

Cheers,

Phil

You are most welcome!!

soundfreak38
01-10-2009, 08:01 PM
You are most welcome!!
Dave, thanks once again for the useful information. I just hope it serves to help those out there that are merely "sitting on the fence" so to speak. Perhaps, some of them will become part of the Ascend Family. Just wished I had so much sooner!!!! ;);)

Cheers,

Phil

scape
01-28-2009, 10:29 AM
how does center channel placement work into all this? movies hone right into center almost exclusively during diaglogue, and having it above my tv it sometimes draws me upwards. is there anyway to fix this? (i have a 340se above my tv, on a slight decline pointing towards my couch, and the listening pos. is about 10ft away). having it below my tv screen worked a bit better, but blocked the screen by about 1-2"s, which was annoying as all get out.

debo
01-28-2009, 03:29 PM
I'm not being a smart a** but can you see the speaker sitting on top of the tv and if so have you turned the lights completely and watched a movie. Television speakers pretty much always blend in with the decore of the tv so your eyes don't divert to them the way they will with a speaker mounted separately.

scape
01-28-2009, 06:29 PM
i've closed my eyes, haha, yes. I do see what you mean, and that is a common problem with subs that are visible. it still seems to bother me a tad, maybe i am just being nitpicky here, or delusional ;)