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    Default Re: Sierra-1s set to large? Bad or good?

    Quote Originally Posted by cynan View Post
    As far as whether setting speakers to "small" results in missing bass with home theater - this depends on your receiver and how it is set up. On most I've seen, you can assign whether the subwoofer receives LFE only or LFE + base from other channels. Also, on some receivers, if a subwoofer is detected, setting the speakers to "small" might result in automatically directing frequencies below the crossover point to the sub. I'm not sure that these settings are uniform across all receiver brands/audyseey implementations.
    That's not how "LFE + main" setting works. If selected and if fronts are set to large, it results in frequencies below crossover point of front channels to be directed both to those channels and to the subwoofer, which give you "double" bass. If the fronts are set to small, the subwoofer always reproduces frequencies below their crossover point regardless of the LFE / LFE + main setting. No combination of settings will result in the low frequencies for the fronts being "lost".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post
    That's not how "LFE + main" setting works. If selected and if fronts are set to large, it results in frequencies below crossover point of front channels to be directed both to those channels and to the subwoofer, which give you "double" bass. If the fronts are set to small, the subwoofer always reproduces frequencies below their crossover point regardless of the LFE / LFE + main setting. No combination of settings will result in the low frequencies for the fronts being "lost".

    Yes. You are correct. Thank you for the clarification. I did not mean to imply that there is a setting on an AVR that results in loosing all bass - I was replying to the above poster - but yes, that is sort of how what I wrote reads. Also, I was not sure if all AVRs worked this way...

    Whatever the case, "double bass" or "LFE + MAIN" should be avoided at all costs - it will just result in muddier sounding bass with the mains and the subs fighting over the same signal.

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    Default Re: Sierra-1s set to large? Bad or good?

    Quote Originally Posted by cynan View Post
    Yes. You are correct. Thank you for the clarification. I did not mean to imply that there is a setting on an AVR that results in loosing all bass - I was replying to the above poster - but yes, that is sort of how what I wrote reads. Also, I was not sure if all AVRs worked this way...

    Whatever the case, "double bass" or "LFE + MAIN" should be avoided at all costs - it will just result in muddier sounding bass with the mains and the subs fighting over the same signal.
    Turns out we were both saying the same thing all along. And yes, there's really no good reason for LFE+main.

    As a side note, a lot of Audyssey questions and misconceptions that come up on this forum could easily be clarified just by reading the Audyssey FAQ on AVS.

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    Default Re: Sierra-1s set to large? Bad or good?

    I have a Denon AVR-1712. I am not using a sub. Should I use a crossover frequency, particularly with movies, to avoid damaging my Sierra-1s? Currently I am trying my Sierras set to Small with a crossover frequency of 60Hz. Is there a way to set them to Large and still use a crossover frequency? I have not run Audyssey.

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    Default Re: Sierra-1s set to large? Bad or good?

    Quote Originally Posted by noteworthy View Post
    I have a Denon AVR-1712. I am not using a sub. Should I use a crossover frequency, particularly with movies, to avoid damaging my Sierra-1s? Currently I am trying my Sierras set to Small with a crossover frequency of 60Hz. Is there a way to set them to Large and still use a crossover frequency? I have not run Audyssey.
    If you have not run Audyssey, there should be no issues running the Sierra-1 full range. It is only when using room equalization in combination with running the Sierra-1 (or any non full-range speaker) that you can run into problems as Audyssey will boost the low end output.
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    Default Re: Sierra-1s set to large? Bad or good?

    Dave,

    Thanks for the info. The Audyssey subject can get confusing. I'll run the Sierras full range until I run Audyssey then.

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