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Thread: Side mount for rear channel?

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    Default Side mount for rear channel?

    In my setup, I think I need to side mount the surround speakers. (See photo of my current setup.)

    Do I need to point the surrounds at the seating area? If so, anyone have a suggestion for a decent-looking way of mouting the HTM-200s from the side?

    As you can see from the picture, the brick would prevent a rear mount (I think).

    I'm thinking of getting the Pioneer 1015tx along with Ascend 340s for the front and HTM-200s for the surrounds; anyone else running that configuration?
    Last edited by lmm; 05-04-2005 at 11:43 AM. Reason: update title

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    here is a good site for setting up the proper speaker locations:
    http://dolbylabs.com/consumer/home_e...oomlayout.html

    For mounting in your setup, you could use L brackets from the hardware store and paint them to match your decor.
    -curtis

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    Default Would this work with 170s and not just 200s?

    I'm worried that it would look bad, or wouldn't be sturdy enough, compared to wall-mounting brackets designed especially for the purpose.

    Is there anyone with actual experience side-mounting Ascend surrounds?


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    Home Depot sells some glass shelves that mount directly to a wall using a stud mounted horizontal decorative steel strip. I saw them in a center channel mounting thread on AVS awhile back. I know they make different sizes, and they look like they're floating on the wall when installed. You could get one for each HTM-200 and just set the speaker on the shelf.

    Sorry I can't provide a link or a picture. If you hunt in the Rear Projection forum on AVS for center channel mount you might find what I'm talking about.
    -Jim

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    Here is a picture of one of my surrounds with the Home Depot bracket.....I was going to paint it.....

    http://www.thechangs.us/ceiling1.JPG

    I have since angled the speaker downward a bit with the same bracket.
    -curtis

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    The L bracket is a nice and simple solution. When mounting into drywall though, I would be concerned about side loading of the L bracket because the speaker isn't exactly light and drywall is much softer than wood beams.

    From the specs on the Accessories page, it looks like the Omnimount has 3" clearance from the wall and 90 degrees horizontal turn radius. The HTM-200 is 6.5" wide, so it's possible you could turn the 200 sideways. You might call Ascend to see what they say. If you need an additional 1/2-1" clearance, you could make some small mounting pads for the Omnimount out of MDF. You could radius the edges and prime/paint them to match your wall color. They would dissapear unless somebody was inspecting your work.

    If that doesn't work for you, you might go to the Omnimount web site. They have a bunch of different mounts besides the ones Ascend sells. Maybe one of them can extend far enough from the wall for the HTM-200 to be turned 90 degrees. Another cheap albeit crude solution crude would be to fabricate simple triangle brackets from 1/2" angle steel and short 1/4" x 20 bolts and nuts. It would be functional but probably not pass the WAF factor.
    -Jim

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    Default Omnimount

    The Omnimount OMT 7.0 has one with an 8.35" arm length, but it only supports up to 7 lbs. The HTM-200 only lists shipping weight: 19 lbs for 2. I would guess though that they weigh more than 7 lbs each.

    The Omnimount ProAudio WA 20.5 B (Omnimount PDF spec) seems to have enough of an extension (4 5/8") from the wall, if there's enough clearance for the 1 1/8" wall bracket cover, and holds enough weight (up to 20 lbs).

    Omnimount has a speaker reference chart but they don't list Ascends (!).

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    Default Did Ascend add new brackets?

    Why didn't someone tell me, on the ascend accessories page there are wall mounts for the HTM-200s and also for the CBM-170s which support "90 degree horizontal rotation. Where these there before and I just missed them?

    Anyone have these and willing to post photos of what they look like when installed and turned 90 degrees? I want to judge WAF

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    I alluded to the Omnimounts sold by Ascend in my first response, but I just assumed you had already seen them. They can pivot 90 degrees, but does the arm extend away from the wall far enough to allow the speaker to be turned sideways? That would be a question for Ascend. Here's the info I posted previously about the Omnimounts from Ascend:

    From the specs on the Accessories page, it looks like the Omnimount has 3" clearance from the wall and 90 degrees horizontal turn radius. The HTM-200 is 6.5" wide, so it's possible you could turn the 200 sideways. You might call Ascend to see what they say. If you need an additional 1/2-1" clearance, you could make some small mounting pads for the Omnimount out of MDF. You could radius the edges and prime/paint them to match your wall color. They would dissapear unless somebody was inspecting your work.
    -Jim

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    Default side mount 200s

    I talked to Dave@Ascend, and he said that Omnimounts allow the speaker to turn, but not 90 degrees. If I really need a side mount, it's possible to use the mounting kit that comes with the omnimounts to drill holes in the sides of the HTM-200s and mount them from the sides.

    "It won't harm the speakers".

    Well, I think I'll try the rear mounts first, and see how it goes before drilling my new surrounds (when they arrive).

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