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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Fascinating.

    I guess it's not just as simple as "throw it in the Klippel and that will tell us everything there is to know about the speaker." The ASR fanboys' heads are going to explode.

    The really important question, though, is when can we get our V2 upgrades?

    I'm kidding, that's not the important question. Seriously, Dave, thank you for your endless dedication. Your love for what you do comes through and always makes me happy that I'm an Ascend customer. Don't get me wrong—having great speakers is the main thing that makes me happy to be an Ascend customer, but this is a terrific bonus. Every time there's a four-figure charge on my credit card from Ascend, I think "this is for Dave and Dina, who DEFINITELY deserve it."
    Luna Duo LCR in HT, Sierra-2 EXs in study, S-1 NrTs in bedroom, S-1s at work, HTM-200s in kitchen. Brother owns CMT-340s and dad has a pair of CBM-170s. I also own a Rythmik L22 sub.

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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by vkottas View Post
    +1 for me on Duo v2 availability list! (long term Sierra v2 owner, recently picked up 4 HTM-200SEs for surrounds for new basement HT setup)

    This has been quite a ride. I've been saddened by the cynicism about the measurements, awed and inspired by Dave's reactions in word and deed.

    It amazes me in these kind of niche "hobbyist" markets (my other personal one being hobby boardgames) when people's first thoughts jump to cynical assumptions when something isn't quite right. The people working in this kind of industry (especially at Dave's scale) are so clearly driven by the love of the thing and could be making more money for the same or less effort doing something else.

    Thanks for all the dedication and, as others have said, the transparency - it's fascinating to have a window into all of this.

    -vas
    Hi Vas,

    Thanks for your nice comments, they are greatly appreciated.

    Once production on the V2 crossovers is completed and they are in transit to us, I will post an update together with a link for pre-ordering. We hope to have them by the holidays but the way things are these days, who knows
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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    Once production on the V2 crossovers is completed and they are in transit to us, I will post an update together with a link for pre-ordering.
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    All in good fun.
    Luna Duo LCR in HT, Sierra-2 EXs in study, S-1 NrTs in bedroom, S-1s at work, HTM-200s in kitchen. Brother owns CMT-340s and dad has a pair of CBM-170s. I also own a Rythmik L22 sub.

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    Exclamation Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    Thanks all. This is really an interesting study, well - at least to me

    I have spent way too much time and money on this and I don't foresee us recouping the cost of our Klippel NFS purchase (anytime soon). However, from the standpoint of what I do, of what I have been doing since around 1987 or so, it was well worth it.
    Dave,

    No wonder your audio speaker systems are superb performers amongst the maze of global accurate transducer products! Even without NFS, the MLSSA or the ASR measurement systems (all great tools...when understood and used appropriately), your passion, dedication and persistence to create the best sound reproducers in this industry is easily recognizable through the final test of ownership success...Listening..."Hearing Is Believing"!!!

    Ted
    Sierra-2EX, Axiom EP 500, Emotiva USP-1, Emotiva UPA-2, Phillips CD880 (dedicated 2.1 listening room)!

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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Some good news to share....

    I have made arrangements to have the original Luna tested in a true anechoic chamber. This will, once and for all, give me the answers I seek and provide some closure.

    I will have to ship the speaker to Norway (SEAS), but our friends at SEAS are happy to run the measurements I have requested. SEAS also uses Klippel measurement gear (not the NFS though since they have a chamber), but all Klippel gear is based off the same software and same hardware analyzer.
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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    Some good news to share....

    I have made arrangements to have the original Luna tested in a true anechoic chamber. This will, once and for all, give me the answers I seek and provide some closure...
    Great Dave, very interesting! To collaborate the two testing scenarios and their similarities will be positive confirmation...keep us informed!!

    Ted
    Sierra-2EX, Axiom EP 500, Emotiva USP-1, Emotiva UPA-2, Phillips CD880 (dedicated 2.1 listening room)!

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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by theophile View Post
    Great Dave, very interesting! To collaborate the two testing scenarios and their similarities will be positive confirmation...keep us informed!!

    Ted
    Yes, I am excited about this. To be honest, I hope the chamber measurements perfectly match our NFS measurements in that port resonance range. Things will be a bit "messy" if they do not and I will then have to get Klippel involved to determine what is going on...
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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    fingers crossed that the measurements match!

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    Default Re: NFS Luna / Duo Follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    Some good news to share....

    I have made arrangements to have the original Luna tested in a true anechoic chamber. This will, once and for all, give me the answers I seek and provide some closure.

    I will have to ship the speaker to Norway (SEAS), but our friends at SEAS are happy to run the measurements I have requested. SEAS also uses Klippel measurement gear (not the NFS though since they have a chamber), but all Klippel gear is based off the same software and same hardware analyzer.
    I'm really curious to see how close everything matches too. This will be interesting to follow. Very cool you have a relationship with SEAS and they're gonna run that speaker through the anechoic gauntlet for you. This should definitively let you know how accurate the NFS is compared to the real deal.

    You're a real dog on this one man. Git 'em! Lol

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