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Thread: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

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    Default Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Im looking to purchase a 5.1 system for mostly home theater with separate subs crossed at 80Hz.
    Anyone have any experience or insight between the main channels and center speaker?
    Im in Australia, so cant test the systems before buying.
    If I was to get Ascend, it would have to be with RAAL upgrade.
    Does Ascend do any specials for Black Friday or any other sales?
    Aperion has 30% off, so getting Verus II Grand Towers, Center and 2 Bookshelf (in Gloss Cherry) ends up being $2,769.
    RAAL towers, Horizon RAAL center and 2 Lunas (in Satin Espresso) ends up being $5,248.
    Is it worth almost double the price?
    I wasnt even considering Aperion, but the sale seems quite attractive.
    I need to add shipping as well (hopefully domestic shipping is part of the price and can be deducted).
    All opinions appreciated.
    Last edited by MaxTemp; 11-22-2017 at 05:35 AM.

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Here's a thread that started out comparing center speakers and journeyed to comparing the Sierra and Aperion towers. It may help you decide. The link should take you to the section where the Sierra towers arrive at his house.

    http://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...l#post36249562

    Personally I've never heard the Aperions but I do own the RAAL Sierra towers and Horizon and love them. So I can't say whether the Sierras are worth twice the price. I know for me that would be a tough pill to swallow without being able to hear both before purchasing.

    Good luck with your decision.
    Jack

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Thanks Jack. I had read that thread a while ago when I became interested in Ascend.
    I did refresh my memory after you sent the link

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    You're welcome. That thread introduced me to Ascend and I'm glad I happened to find it when I did.

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    From specs and users experiences overall no doubt indicate the Ascend products are superior.
    But are there any good deals or discounts they offer during Black Friday or in general?

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTemp View Post
    From specs and users experiences overall no doubt indicate the Ascend products are superior.
    But are there any good deals or discounts they offer during Black Friday or in general?
    You may not be on the mailing list...

    Did you see this?

    http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/sho...8199#post58199
    -curtis

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Both are very good speakers, but the Sierra with the Raal ribbon tweeter is a step above. A few years ago I compared the Sierra 2 and the Verus Grand I towers in my room. Aperion was running a heck of a deal at the time, where the towers were less than the Sierra 2s in price. Anyways, both have good uniform dispersion where you don't have to worry hardly at all about toeing them in, though the Sierra 2s are a step above the Aperion's if you were to measure them. Both are detailed and could delineate instruments quite well (rather than smearing of them together like with lesser speakers). The Sierra 2's were surprising in the depth (into the room) of the soundstage and the width and height were also good. But, the Verus Grand's soundstage was much wider and taller though. I don't think that they are as accurate in this regard as the Sierra 2s, from what Dave has said. He has mentioned how it is not difficult to make a huge soundstage, but he is going for an accurate sized one.

    It is hard to describe, but while I could hear similar detail and delineation from either the Verus Grands or the Sierra 2s, the Sierra 2s had this extra level of clarity that the Verus Grands were missing. It has to be related to the superior transient response in the Sierra 2s. They can just start and stop, quicker and you don't get this subtle yet unmistakable lack of additional stuff being played from them. Even though I was going to spend a little bit more money on a bookshelf speaker over a tower speaker, I had no doubt in my mind that the Sierra 2s were the better choice for me. So the Verus Grands went back.

    I urge you to do the comparison yourself if you can take advantage of the free shipping Aperion gives both ways. I'm fairly certain that you would be sending them back and keeping the Ascend speakers.

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxTemp View Post
    Im looking to purchase a 5.1 system for mostly home theater with separate subs crossed at 80Hz.
    Anyone have any experience or insight between the main channels and center speaker?
    Im in Australia, so cant test the systems before buying.
    If I was to get Ascend, it would have to be with RAAL upgrade.
    Does Ascend do any specials for Black Friday or any other sales?
    Aperion has 30% off, so getting Verus II Grand Towers, Center and 2 Bookshelf (in Gloss Cherry) ends up being $2,769.
    RAAL towers, Horizon RAAL center and 2 Lunas (in Satin Espresso) ends up being $5,248.
    Is it worth almost double the price?
    I wasnt even considering Aperion, but the sale seems quite attractive.
    I need to add shipping as well (hopefully domestic shipping is part of the price and can be deducted).
    All opinions appreciated.
    Since you plan on using subs why not go with five Sierra 2 speakers and save some money.

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Quote Originally Posted by N Boros View Post
    Both are very good speakers, but the Sierra with the Raal ribbon tweeter is a step above. A few years ago I compared the Sierra 2 and the Verus Grand I towers in my room. Aperion was running a heck of a deal at the time, where the towers were less than the Sierra 2s in price. Anyways, both have good uniform dispersion where you don't have to worry hardly at all about toeing them in, though the Sierra 2s are a step above the Aperion's if you were to measure them. Both are detailed and could delineate instruments quite well (rather than smearing of them together like with lesser speakers). The Sierra 2's were surprising in the depth (into the room) of the soundstage and the width and height were also good. But, the Verus Grand's soundstage was much wider and taller though. I don't think that they are as accurate in this regard as the Sierra 2s, from what Dave has said. He has mentioned how it is not difficult to make a huge soundstage, but he is going for an accurate sized one.

    It is hard to describe, but while I could hear similar detail and delineation from either the Verus Grands or the Sierra 2s, the Sierra 2s had this extra level of clarity that the Verus Grands were missing. It has to be related to the superior transient response in the Sierra 2s. They can just start and stop, quicker and you don't get this subtle yet unmistakable lack of additional stuff being played from them. Even though I was going to spend a little bit more money on a bookshelf speaker over a tower speaker, I had no doubt in my mind that the Sierra 2s were the better choice for me. So the Verus Grands went back.

    I urge you to do the comparison yourself if you can take advantage of the free shipping Aperion gives both ways. I'm fairly certain that you would be sending them back and keeping the Ascend speakers.
    Thanks for your thoughts.
    I cannot trial them since Im in Australia, so just researching based on specs/reviews/opinions.

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    Default Re: Sierra RAAL Tower Vs Aperion Verus II Grand

    Quote Originally Posted by kyzersoze98 View Post
    Since you plan on using subs why not go with five Sierra 2 speakers and save some money.
    I would prefer the dedicated mid range driver in the tower, plus the better RAAL tweeter.

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