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Thread: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roen View Post
    Hypothetical (for future receiver upgrades), and for others who might have 2 crossover settings and come upon this thread.

    I think I understand your reply, set crossover 1 and 2 at 80 Hz and then play with them individually. Should I play with surrounds first or fronts & center first?
    If you want to find the best crossover for the speakers in your room, you could use sweeps, using the following link:

    http://onlinetonegenerator.com/frequ...generator.html

    With sweeps you should choose a sine wave and a reasonble volume level so that you don't damage things.

    Maybe create a sweep from 20 Hz to 150 or 200 Hz for 10 to 15 seconds. If you have an SPL meter then it could make things even easier, though you might be able to do this by ear. Disconnect all other speakers at the binding posts except for the one in question and the subwoofer. Now play the sweep and you would like it to be as smooth as possible in level, mostly near the crossover region. You can go in to the settings in the receiver and try raising or lowering the crossover slightly to see if you get better results. When you are happy with the crossover for that speaker, turn off the receiver and disconnect it at the binding posts and connect another speaker to check.

    Auto Eq's like Audyssey should be able to calculate these things for you, so that you don't have to go through all of this trouble, but Audyssey left it to the receiver manufacturer to decide what to do with their measurements. Usually it is more manly for a speaker to be designated as large, so often speakers that have no business being set as large are set that way by the choices of the design team for the receiver.

    If you have already run the Auto EQ you will see how smooth you bass is from your subwoofer. Maybe this would be a time to also try different placement options for the subwoofer if the bass isn't as smooth as you would like.

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by enricoclaudio View Post
    Ordered these speaker stands today. They look very promising and they have amazing reviews. Ordered from Overstock.com with free shipping. Not using them with the Lunas. These are going into my bedroom but just wanted to share in case somebody is interested in heavy duty adjustable speaker stands.

    http://www.cotytech.com/content-prod...d_sp_os10.html

    https://www.overstock.com/Electronic...2/product.html
    Hey Enrico I picked up these because of you and LOVE them.

    http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ultimate...and-36-Pair.gc

    Please let us know what you think of those Cotytech stands especially since they are adjustable. I might purchase for the bedroom.

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Would this amp be overkill for the Lunasx if they're used in a nearfield desktop application?

    Schiit Vidar

    Power Output:

    Stereo, 8 Ohms: 100W RMS per channel
    Stereo, 4 Ohms: 200W RMS per channel
    Mono, 8 ohms: 400W RMS
    Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db, 3Hz-500KHz, -3dB
    THD: <0.01%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 100W RMS into 8 ohms
    IMD: <0.01%, CCIR, at 100W RMS into 8 ohms
    SNR: >125db, A-weighted, referenced to full output
    Damping Factor: >100 into 8 ohms, 20-20kHz
    Gain: 22 (27dB)
    Input Impedance: 22k ohms SE, 44k ohms balanced
    Crosstalk: >95dB, 20-20kHz
    Inputs: L/R RCA jacks for stereo input, single XLR for mono input
    Topology: Fully complementary, all-BJT, current feedback, no coupling capacitors or DC servos
    Oversight: microprocessor-controlled monitoring and management of critical operational points, including DC offset, with with relay shut-down for overcurrent, thermal, and other faults
    Power Supply: 600VA transformer with dual mono main rails, plus boosted, regulated supply to input, voltage gain and driver stages, plus separate, isolated and regulated rails for microprocessor management.
    Power Consumption: 700W maximum
    Size: 9” x 13” x 3.875”

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimpinchair View Post
    Would this amp be overkill for the Lunasx if they're used in a nearfield desktop application?
    How do you define overkill? I am running a Vidar with a pair of Lunas in a near field desktop set-up and love it. These speakers need some power behind them, and the Vidar lets them sing. I think it is a great match, but your results may differ.

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by ne24611 View Post
    How do you define overkill? I am running a Vidar with a pair of Lunas in a near field desktop set-up and love it. These speakers need some power behind them, and the Vidar lets them sing. I think it is a great match, but your results may differ.
    I guess I would define "overkill" as never actually using anywhere near the 100 watts. It seems that what l'm really saying is I truly have no idea how speakers use the power supplied to them.
    Last edited by Gimpinchair; 08-09-2017 at 01:11 PM.

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by kyzersoze98 View Post
    Hey Enrico I picked up these because of you and LOVE them.

    http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ultimate...and-36-Pair.gc

    Please let us know what you think of those Cotytech stands especially since they are adjustable. I might purchase for the bedroom.
    I got the CotyTech stands and they are better than I was expecting. Very well made, sturdy and they hold my B&W 686 S2s very secure. I tried them with the Lunas and they work very well too. At 45" high they move a bit. The MS-90 45" are rock solid at 45". The CotyTech works safe up to 36" with is more than enough for about 95% of people.

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    Enrico Castagnetti @ Rythmik Audio
    Media Room: Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/ RAAL, Horizon w/ RAAL, Sierra 2s & Lunas | Rythmik F12SE (x2) | Emotiva XMC-1 | Emotiva XPA-3 & XPA-200 | Oppo 105D | Bluesound Node 2 | Sony HW40ES |
    Desktop: Dynaudio BM5 mkIII | Rythmik L22 | Apogee Quartet | 27" iMac|
    Bedroom: B&W 685 S2 | Rythmik LVX12 | Marantz NR1606 | Emotiva XPA-200 Gen 2 | Samsung UN50JU6500 |

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimpinchair View Post
    Would this amp be overkill for the Lunasx if they're used in a nearfield desktop application?

    Schiit Vidar

    Power Output:

    Stereo, 8 Ohms: 100W RMS per channel
    Stereo, 4 Ohms: 200W RMS per channel
    Mono, 8 ohms: 400W RMS
    Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db, 3Hz-500KHz, -3dB
    THD: <0.01%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 100W RMS into 8 ohms
    IMD: <0.01%, CCIR, at 100W RMS into 8 ohms
    SNR: >125db, A-weighted, referenced to full output
    Damping Factor: >100 into 8 ohms, 20-20kHz
    Gain: 22 (27dB)
    Input Impedance: 22k ohms SE, 44k ohms balanced
    Crosstalk: >95dB, 20-20kHz
    Inputs: L/R RCA jacks for stereo input, single XLR for mono input
    Topology: Fully complementary, all-BJT, current feedback, no coupling capacitors or DC servos
    Oversight: microprocessor-controlled monitoring and management of critical operational points, including DC offset, with with relay shut-down for overcurrent, thermal, and other faults
    Power Supply: 600VA transformer with dual mono main rails, plus boosted, regulated supply to input, voltage gain and driver stages, plus separate, isolated and regulated rails for microprocessor management.
    Power Consumption: 700W maximum
    Size: 9” x 13” x 3.875”
    It is hard to define the term overkill... If referring to wattage, since you mention nearfield placement (3 feet distance or closer), I would say you would never use more than 50 watts peak into each Luna. At 50 watts with a distance of 3 feet, you will hit 100dB from each speaker - which is extremely loud.

    On the other hand, it is nice to have additional headroom just in case you want to listen at a distance of 10 feet, where the additional power would be extremely worthwhile.
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    David Fabrikant
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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    I'm driving my Lunas with an Emotiva XPA-200 Gen 2 (150 watts per channel) and I don't consider it overkill. If you like the Vidar then go for it.
    Enrico Castagnetti @ Rythmik Audio
    Media Room: Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/ RAAL, Horizon w/ RAAL, Sierra 2s & Lunas | Rythmik F12SE (x2) | Emotiva XMC-1 | Emotiva XPA-3 & XPA-200 | Oppo 105D | Bluesound Node 2 | Sony HW40ES |
    Desktop: Dynaudio BM5 mkIII | Rythmik L22 | Apogee Quartet | 27" iMac|
    Bedroom: B&W 685 S2 | Rythmik LVX12 | Marantz NR1606 | Emotiva XPA-200 Gen 2 | Samsung UN50JU6500 |

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by enricoclaudio View Post
    I got the CotyTech stands and they are better than I was expecting. Very well made, sturdy and they hold my B&W 686 S2s very secure. I tried them with the Lunas and they work very well too. At 45" high they move a bit. The MS-90 45" are rock solid at 45". The CotyTech works safe up to 36" with is more than enough for about 95% of people.
    The Lunas, with their recessed posts, no issues with spades?

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    Default Re: New for 2016 - Introducing the Luna Mini Monitor!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roen View Post
    The Lunas, with their recessed posts, no issues with spades?
    I don't have spades here but I don't see any problem using spades, unless you use fat connector spades like this one:

    https://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Deadbo...speaker+spades
    Enrico Castagnetti @ Rythmik Audio
    Media Room: Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/ RAAL, Horizon w/ RAAL, Sierra 2s & Lunas | Rythmik F12SE (x2) | Emotiva XMC-1 | Emotiva XPA-3 & XPA-200 | Oppo 105D | Bluesound Node 2 | Sony HW40ES |
    Desktop: Dynaudio BM5 mkIII | Rythmik L22 | Apogee Quartet | 27" iMac|
    Bedroom: B&W 685 S2 | Rythmik LVX12 | Marantz NR1606 | Emotiva XPA-200 Gen 2 | Samsung UN50JU6500 |

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