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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    Front, rear and center speakers must be set to SMALL.
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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    David. ... you're suggesting that to fix the receiver to play bass out of Sub or is it both ... to enable the option AND because you suggest playing those speakers in SMALL ?
    A/V Receiver - Denon AVR 4311ci
    L/R - Ascend Sierra-1 NrT
    Center - Ascend Sierra-1 NrT
    Surrounds - Ascend HTM-200
    Sub - Rythmik F12
    TV - Sharp LC-80LE650U 80-inch
    Screen - 135" STR-169135-G Silver Ticket 4K Ultra HD Ready
    Projector - Epson Home Cinema 3100 1080p
    SACD Player - Sony C222ES

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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pianist718 View Post
    David. ... you're suggesting that to fix the receiver to play bass out of Sub or is it both ... to enable the option AND because you suggest playing those speakers in SMALL ?
    Setting the speakers to LARGE disables bass management and the receiver then sends a full range signal to the speakers. It *might* also send bass to the subwoofer (depends on the receiver), but either way -- it is entirely incorrect. Your speakers must be set to small. NEVER blindly trust the results of these Auto EQ systems, they rarely -- if ever, get things right.
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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pianist718 View Post
    David. ... you're suggesting that to fix the receiver to play bass out of Sub or is it both ... to enable the option AND because you suggest playing those speakers in SMALL ?
    Pretty sure both...bass out to sub and other speakers to small.

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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    With the 465 your sub level is more than likely reduced to minimum if YPAO recognizes the mains as "large". If you scroll thru the receiver and find your "levels" area you will see that the sub level was completely reduced. Raise it to the middle with all set to "small" and start with the 80hz crossover. Its your sub level setting. Everytime I ran my 465 YPAO i would also have to readjust the sub level.

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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    Thank you guys. Appreciate the quick response.

    Just did the change and I think tv, music, movies now sounds better.

    By the way ... FYI ... 2 days ago, changed the angle of a center speaker to point up just a little to my ear instead of stomach and dialog is now better. Did A/B test a few times to double check and yea, noticed a clearer sound from center.
    A/V Receiver - Denon AVR 4311ci
    L/R - Ascend Sierra-1 NrT
    Center - Ascend Sierra-1 NrT
    Surrounds - Ascend HTM-200
    Sub - Rythmik F12
    TV - Sharp LC-80LE650U 80-inch
    Screen - 135" STR-169135-G Silver Ticket 4K Ultra HD Ready
    Projector - Epson Home Cinema 3100 1080p
    SACD Player - Sony C222ES

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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    If you will be keeping this receiver always remember that when YPAO is run you will always need to reset the sub level anytime a front or main speaker is set to large. With this level receiver it will completely reduce it to nothing. You will also realize how powerful adjusting the levels will be. The sub level set to the middle area makes a huge difference from the minimum setting. Been there done it a boatload of times with this receiver.

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    Default Re: Help ! My Receiver is Out of Control! Or am I the stupid one?

    Quote Originally Posted by hearing specialist View Post
    If you will be keeping this receiver always remember that when YPAO is run you will always need to reset the sub level anytime a front or main speaker is set to large. With this level receiver it will completely reduce it to nothing. You will also realize how powerful adjusting the levels will be. The sub level set to the middle area makes a huge difference from the minimum setting. Been there done it a boatload of times with this receiver.
    Strangely ... the sub it set to almost center. I actually had to tone it down by 1-2 clicks on the sub itself. Just a bit too much thump. But overall this thing sounds better now.

    thanks guys/.

    P.S. After hearing things about all these auto system setups, I am paying less attention to the Audyssey and YPAO functionality when picking a new receiver. Leaning towards Yamaha RX-A2010. If anyone owns one or knows it, feedback is welcome.
    A/V Receiver - Denon AVR 4311ci
    L/R - Ascend Sierra-1 NrT
    Center - Ascend Sierra-1 NrT
    Surrounds - Ascend HTM-200
    Sub - Rythmik F12
    TV - Sharp LC-80LE650U 80-inch
    Screen - 135" STR-169135-G Silver Ticket 4K Ultra HD Ready
    Projector - Epson Home Cinema 3100 1080p
    SACD Player - Sony C222ES

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