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Thread: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    My sub is EQ'd. I just prefer the Pure Audio modes on my OPPO 95, and Yamaha for most music. I use the sub for some tracks, and all movies.

    Subs are hard to set up really well. I feel if they aren't perfect they will muddy up the mains bottom end. ... I have heard this Audio Unicorn once.

    I wish I were better at it.

    Anyone who want's to come visit, and help is welcome.



    B.

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    Blue...what sub do you have, and which EQ system? I forgot.
    -curtis

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    I use a Martin Logan Depth i Subwoofer

    http://www.martinlogan.com/products/depthi

    It has servo controlled drivers. (Invented by my old friend Arnie Nudell, when he owned Infinity Speakers).

    My Yamaha RXS A1010 receiver uses the YPAO set up system, although I haven't run it yet for my Tower speakers..... pending arrival of my compact Horizon Center speaker (just arrived Wed) Yeah!

    My Mother in Law is visiting, and graciousness prevents me from setting up my new system for now.

    Blutarsky

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    Wish I lived closer....would like to help you out, and experience that sub.
    -curtis

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    Blutarsky,
    I know that I stated I wouldn't get into subs in this thread, buy the Depth i subwoofer has me very interested. I was trying to decide between a REL, Rythmik or the new "E" series JL Audio sub (not yet released) to match with the Sierra Towers (RAAL) that Iím ready to order. I asked Dave some questions about subs and he gave me some very useful information about how REL's Nuetrik connection works vs. regular RCA inputs. Now that I have a better understanding I'm not interested in the REL, but looking at the Martin Logan makes me wonder how it would compare against the Rythmik F12 (possibly E15). I wonder if the Depth i has a noticeable improvement in sound due to the claimed cancellation of sound waves in the enclosure.

    I don't know if you could answer this, but I would love to find out how the output compares to the F12.

    I also wonder if the 3 woofers are an advantage with room interactions or disadvantage.

    Like most people I want a fast accurate sub with as much clean output as possible in a small/medium enclosure (WAF).

    Thanks (in advance),
    Matt

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    Matt, et al....
    I can't compare the Martin Logan to any Rythmik models. I have only had one other Sub, A Genesis Technologies model. It went to 16 Hz. Both shared similar techologies.

    I really like my Depth i. It is compact, and sounds very clean. I think the use of 3 smaller drivers keeps it sounding tight. High SAF too.

    I appreciate the controls on top, under a panel. The set up is very easy.

    The Reviews are very positive. Rythmik subs cost a little less.

    There are a lot of Martin Logan Dealers for you to audition one.

    I recommend one.

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    Thanks for you response Blutarsky

    I was almost sure that I would end up buying a Rythmik F12 until I read about the Depth i, now I'm not sure what to do. If the Depth i is as accurate (possibly even more accurate) with it's smaller 8 inch drivers, servo control and "TriLinear BalancedForce driver alignment" then I would be very interested. Especially if its output is comparable to a 15 inch woofer as they claim. I would gladly spend extra if I could get more clean output from the Depth i then I can with the F12. I know that I could always buy a bigger sub, but I risk having a very unhappy wife. She is on board with the Sierra Towers/center and F12 sub, but she isnít excited about a ďbig ugly boxĒ as a subwoofer. She is more accepting of the look and dimensions of the Depth i.

    It doesn't appear that my local Best Buy carries the Depth i and there is only one other retailer (a local dealer that I will need to call Monday) that may or may not have it in stock, so I'm not sure that I will be able to hear it for myself. That is why I appreciate feedback from yourself and anyone else that has experience with the Depth i. Especially if anyone can compare it to any other subs (especially Rythmik) that have 12 or 15 inch drivers.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    When I bought the Depth i it satisfied all of my criteria, including the controls on the top. I developed postural vertigo, and couldn't bend over to adjust the rear knobs of other subs easily.

    Its small size, and sound were other factors. I suggest you read the owners manual on the link I included earlier. It has some interesting features. The 25 Hz control knob has proven useful for my corner placement.

    There are also several finish options.

    Amazon is selling it.

    http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-De.../ref=pd_cp_e_3

    Blutarsky
    Last edited by Blutarsky; 09-09-2012 at 10:12 PM.

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    Default Re: Salk Songtower vs. Sierra Tower

    Quote Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
    When I bought the Depth i it satisfied all of my criteria, including the controls on the top. I developed postural vertigo, and couldn't bend over to adjust the rear knobs of other subs easily.

    Its small size, and sound were other factors. I suggest you read the owners manual on the link I included earlier. It has some interesting features. The 25 Hz control knob has proven useful for my corner placement.

    There are also several finish options.

    Amazon is selling it.

    http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-De.../ref=pd_cp_e_3

    Blutarsky
    If the price for the MartinLogan sub on Amazon is correct ($2195), I would definitely look at the Rythmik F12 (or even the E15). It has a fairly small footprint (for a sub!), and is beautiful in the Piano Black finish, on sale now for $895. If you buy two you get a 10% discount, and Rythmik gives you 30 days to try it out for your approval. You can get two F12's for less than one ML! MartinLogan have historically been known for their mediocre bass. Rythmik's Brian Ding is a very talented subwoofer design specialist. I am a former owner of the Infinity RS1b, which employed multiple servo-controlled woofers in a five foot tall bass cabinet, all designed by Arnie Nudell, and it WAS known for it's excellent bass. Well, I'm here to tell you that Rythmik subs are in a whole 'nother class.

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