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    Default Re: Sierra Horizon (Sierra Tower Center)

    I was wondering if there were minor adjustments to be made to use the STC Horizons in a vertical configuration. I am seriously considering these speakers for that use. I imagine the 340 series has been optimized for center vs main usage.
    Why would you call me a Troll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choirbass View Post
    Nah. It shouldn't be much different for a pair of each as long as the intended orientation is still used. I think he was meaning greater dynamics when using 3 of the same across the front. That isn't really an option with the towers unless you were going to have a pillar in the middle lol.

    As far as music accuracy, it is using only 2 speakers. And since towers aren't an option it seems, Horizon's would be the way to go Now... if she'd only be ok with them being horizontal too, then there wouldn't be any distinctive flaws in their sound.
    I fail to understand how the horizons can be further tweaked, and where there is any flaw in their sound? Even placed vertically with the mid and tweet close together, there is little reason to think they are not stellar performers.

    If they perform basically at the same level as the Towers, trust me, they're pure magic already. Dave, being the perfectionist he is, will describe things the average guy will likely never notice without being able to directly A/B compare (IMHO).

    For instance the difference between the NrT, and the RAALs is truly quite miniscule. If it were not for the preponderance of high resolution music that accounts for the majority of my system usage, I would certainly not have paid the extra for the ribbons. Even with an NrT Sierra as center, with ribbon Tower L/Rs, the soundfield while watching movies is nothing short of extraordinary!

    Being OCD, like most audio freaks, I eagerly await the arrival of a Ribbon Horizon. Truth be told, I'll bet there is little difference to be heard in the system as a whole. Hopefully, I'll be able to comment further in a short while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
    I was wondering if there were minor adjustments to be made to use the STC Horizons in a vertical configuration. I am seriously considering these speakers for that use. I imagine the 340 series has been optimized for center vs main usage.
    Why would you call me a Troll?
    I didn't, I asked...
    I am optimistic about the Horizons potential as stereo mains. I think, that with minor tweaking, Dave will have a great product. "The Horizon II."
    It seemed to me like you were implying that the current Horizon wasn't a "great product" but might be with minor tweaking... That seem quite a harsh thing to say for a product you've most likely not heard, not to mention that there's probably no plans for the 'tweaked' version or product you're hinting at, and that the Horizon has more than likely already been tweaked to hell... What you're basically asking for is a shorter Sierra Tower that you can put on a stand... Which would mean just a Sierra Tower with the base cut off... Looking at the tower:



    It looks to me like the driver portion makes out more than 1/2 of the cabinet space, maybe 60%, if it was to put on a shelf, it would more than likely be way too high, and/or the tweeter would end up too high, I don't know, I don't think I've ever seen such a speaker... I don't think it would make much sens either, so I wouldn't be holding my breath if I were you... If anything, I could envision a 3 way TMW or MTW, as a sort of compromise between the towers and a bookshelf, but I doubt it's on the roadmap... And given the lifespan of the Ascend products, I wouldn't expect the Horizon II for a long long time...

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    Default Re: Sierra Horizon (Sierra Tower Center)

    If I wanted to mix it up with the Big Boys, I would be on a different forum.

    The Ascend forum is generally with out pretence, and I like it that way.

    I'm just a regular guy, with varied interests, looking for the best sound he can afford. I want a bigger stand mounted speaker without the Harbeth price. I have great hope for the Horizons, If it is possible to make minor changes for vertical use, why not wish for it?

    Respectfuly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
    I was wondering if there were minor adjustments to be made to use the STC Horizons in a vertical configuration. I am seriously considering these speakers for that use. I imagine the 340 series has been optimized for center vs main usage.
    Why would you call me a Troll?
    If anything, I would imagine the tweeter would be rotated 90 degrees like the Sierra when placed horizontally.

    The 340 does have a EXBAC circuitry to compensate for the extended baffle that is created when it is placed just on or just below a TV, but really does not have anything to do with horizontal/vertical orientation.
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    THANK YOU!

    I am sure that Dave is considering this. He might have something really great in his sights. Those of us, who need stand mounted speakers, with higher SPL, anxiously await...

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    Quote Originally Posted by petmotel View Post
    I fail to understand how the horizons can be further tweaked, and where there is any flaw in their sound? Even placed vertically with the mid and tweet close together, there is little reason to think they are not stellar performers.

    If they perform basically at the same level as the Towers, trust me, they're pure magic already. Dave, being the perfectionist he is, will describe things the average guy will likely never notice without being able to directly A/B compare (IMHO).
    I had just been basing off of what Dave had mentioned a bit earlier, about quality differences based on the orientation that weren't there otherwise.

    I wasn't meaning to imply that they aren't terrifically astounding speakers. I'm definitely looking forward to ordering mine later on when I have ample funds.
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    Default Re: Sierra Horizon (Sierra Tower Center)

    For Vertical mounting of a pair of Horizons as Mains:

    I looked up EXBAC. What would happen with it turned off, and the tweeter rotated 90 Deg? I would love to know more. This is getting productive now.

    Thanks again
    Last edited by Blutarsky; 02-16-2012 at 03:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Sierra Horizon (Sierra Tower Center)

    Quote Originally Posted by Blutarsky View Post
    For Vertical mounting of a pair of Horizons as Mains:

    I looked up EXBAC. What would happen with it turned off, and the tweeter rotated 90 Deg? I would love to know more. This is getting productive now.

    Thanks again
    EXBAC is only on the 340SE center. Turning it off changes the baffle compensation (makes it a standard 340SE). The tweeter on the 340SE does not have waveguide, so turning it makes no difference.

    Let's not get off topic as this is the Sierra Horizon thread.
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    Default Re: Sierra Horizon (Sierra Tower Center)

    I couldn't wait any longer, the STC with RAAL has been ordered!


    I opted to sell some of my previous Theater room gear(ascend speakers unfortunately) to fund the purchase since I wont be setting up the theater in the new house for some time.

    From the sounds of it, this center should be an excellent match to my Towers not to mention a very dynamic awesome speaker in its own right!

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