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    Default Re: The Tower Discussion Thread!

    Ascent Tower w/ the RAAL Ribbon Tweeter -- where are the Anechoic Chamber measured Plots?

    Before I spend 1,000's of dollars just for FRONTS (FL/FR) I want to see the "Anechoic Chamber" measurement plots for On and Off Axis responses, Reverse Null, Complex Impedance Plot, System Bass Response, Woofer and Port Response, Overall System Output at say 40-50 Watts (SPL vs. Freq.), and lastly Port Air Velocity Percentage (Hopefully less than 5% of the speed of sound) which will peak at lower freq's. usually around 20-30 Hz.

    Forget the quotes, they sound good, they are nice and smooth... the actual measurements will "TELL THE STORY" regarding how good of an Audiophile Speaker they are.

    Forget Klipsch/Def. Tech./B&W, as they have no measured plots out there that they will give the potential buyer!!

    Now, KEF/REVEL Salons/Linkwitz-Orions/Philharmonic Audio --- you can get all their Measured Plots from the chamber -- that says one heck of a lot -- Period.

    Bottom line, I want ACCURATE Speakers -- so let's see the measured DATA from the Chamber.

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    Hi, welcome to the forum. Dave & Ascend are usually very good at providing a wealth of data, as you can see in this forum and on the site.

    I am confident Davef will provide as many graphs of such as possible when he is able. Making requests for additional data he hasn't provided with previous models is apropos. Demanding he do so is a bit rude.

    Quote Originally Posted by DenPureSound View Post
    Ascent Tower w/ the RAAL Ribbon Tweeter -- where are the Anechoic Chamber measured Plots?

    Before I spend 1,000's of dollars just for FRONTS (FL/FR) I want to see the "Anechoic Chamber" measurement plots for On and Off Axis responses, Reverse Null, Complex Impedance Plot, System Bass Response, Woofer and Port Response, Overall System Output at say 40-50 Watts (SPL vs. Freq.), and lastly Port Air Velocity Percentage (Hopefully less than 5% of the speed of sound) which will peak at lower freq's. usually around 20-30 Hz.

    Forget the quotes, they sound good, they are nice and smooth... the actual measurements will "TELL THE STORY" regarding how good of an Audiophile Speaker they are.

    Forget Klipsch/Def. Tech./B&W, as they have no measured plots out there that they will give the potential buyer!!

    Now, KEF/REVEL Salons/Linkwitz-Orions/Philharmonic Audio --- you can get all their Measured Plots from the chamber -- that says one heck of a lot -- Period.

    Bottom line, I want ACCURATE Speakers -- so let's see the measured DATA from the Chamber.
    Jon O.

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    Default Re: The Tower Discussion Thread!

    Excuse you.. I am not Rude , but a true "ULTIMATE AUDIOPHILE" - being in this business for over 35 years, and the specs/plots will speak for themselves!

    I am not stating that Ascend has to produce plots, but w/o them it is like "Guessing" totally, whether or not the Towers are ACCURATE or not, and that is FACT.

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    Lol. OKAY THEN.

    Edit - Disregard me, please continue.
    Last edited by Jonnyozero3; 10-27-2011 at 09:21 AM. Reason: edits
    Jon O.

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    I would also encourage you to call or email Dave. You two would probably have a lot to talk about.
    -curtis

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    Default Re: The Tower Discussion Thread!

    Curtis,

    Thank you.

    Dave is aware of my requests, and I am sure he will address the Measured Plot Data as his time allows.

    I am very curious how the RAAL Ribbon Tweeter performs above the Xover, and whether the speaker overall on/off axis is Accurate.

    Is Dave using a 4th Order Linkwitz-Riley (LR4) 24db/octave for Xovers, or 2nd Order 12db/octave LR2 design?

    Regards,
    Dennis

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    Default Re: denpuresound's quest for speakers

    I wouldn't be one bit suprised if he worked along those lines or in the A/V industry in general. He appears to have a fair amount of knowledge but he is one evasive SOG and rides the coatails of other forum regulars whom he defers too when it comes to answering questions . IMHO...he is a TROLL....

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    Default Re: denpuresound's quest for speakers

    I don't have concrete evidence but I'm certain that some of the "fanboy" groups that frequent certain LARGE MAINSTREAM A/V sites/forums are in fact simply marketing astroturfing and sock-puppetry PR people/firms. This same LARGE MAINSTREAM A/V site also seems to turns a blind eye from what I've seen...

    Possibly because the same outfits also pay for banner/adspace

    This is a real problem on the internet and especially bad in politics.
    Last edited by HiroPro; 11-23-2011 at 03:02 AM.

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    Default Re: denpuresound's quest for speakers

    Guys,

    Dennis has "left the building" so to speak and we wish him the best in his personal quest for loudspeakers. I know he upset many of you in the way he handled things on our forum, including myself, but we should move past this now.

    I am going to close this thread unless the OP would like to report back to us on his quest.
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    David Fabrikant
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