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    For movies, I would try setting them to small and crossing at 50-60hz. Of course I would check them out fullrange too.

    Not sure how serious I would take the measurements with the Radio Shack SPL meter. Good for a general idea of what is going on, but nothing to take too seriously.

    On that note, good to see that you are getting low 30's extension without a sub.
    Last edited by curtis; 03-20-2011 at 03:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merrymaid520 View Post
    Allen,
    I can comment on one of your questions, mine came with spikes but I chose not to use them so I can slide them around. I would call ascend and be placed on their preorder list, I imagine its growing every day I am sure any high powered amp is fine with the towers, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it better to feed them more power then too little and risk clipping the amp and blowing a driver?
    merrymaid520,

    Thanks for your advice regarding the spiked feet. I believe you are correct about the Amps, but Dave’s comments in Post 2 got me concerned. I will call Ascend tomorrow regarding the other issues plus determining whether they bill one’s credit card at the time of the preorder or at the time they ship the towers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post
    merrymaid520,

    Thanks for your advice regarding the spiked feet. I believe you are correct about the Amps, but Dave’s comments in Post 2 got me concerned. I will call Ascend tomorrow regarding the other issues plus determining whether they bill one’s credit card at the time of the preorder or at the time they ship the towers.
    No problem. Ascend I believe typically never bills your CC until they are ready to ship.

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    Nice speakers. I'm really looking forward to the formal launch myself. I agree with Curtis -- much of the odd measurements could be due to the unreliability of the RS SPL meter. When I went to a calibrated mic, I got very different readings. The RS mic appears to be a bit erratic. Nonetheless, please continue to post some listening impressions!
    Last edited by malaplace; 03-21-2011 at 06:09 PM.

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    Damn you!! Damn you all to H*ll!!!

    I just upgraded my Sierra's to the NrT and love them. Now you guys are showing all this tower stuff. Ugh!!

    So now I have to start a tower trust fund
    Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mag_Neato View Post
    Damn you!! Damn you all to H*ll!!!

    I just upgraded my Sierra's to the NrT and love them. Now you guys are showing all this tower stuff. Ugh!!

    So now I have to start a tower trust fund
    It's always nice to dream either way

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    merrymaid, coming from a guy who religously uses my YPAO, if you haven't tried it you have no idea how it will transform the sound of your towers, imo. If your Yammy has the "Front" calibration program I would use that of the 3 choices (Front, Flat, or Natural). You can also set the towers to "Large" and still have them crossed over at 40hz and let your Rythmics take it from 40hz (40hz is lowest setting) down for movies and for PCM 2.0 processing to allow your towers to still rock fullrange. The Parametric program within YPAO is very powerful and exact and using "Front" will allow these to demo their fantastic abilities.

    I have countless hours using YPAO and configuration schemes with my Yamaha receiver always trying to extract the best sound and experimenting with the boundaries of the Yamaha processing. I have to fully believe in proper setup to extract the flavor of these awesome towers.


    Brian in Bakersfield...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mag_Neato View Post
    Damn you!! Damn you all to H*ll!!!

    I just upgraded my Sierra's to the NrT and love them. Now you guys are showing all this tower stuff. Ugh!!

    So now I have to start a tower trust fund
    This is known as "the gunslinger hypothesis". No matter how fast you are, there's always someone just a little faster. In speaker terms, there is always something newer, better, just a little less/more expensive.
    I've also been guilty of upgrading like this, but have decided to stop. Maybe in 5-10 years I'll need something to replace my "old" Sierra. If I can still hear at that time! (Yes, Mr. Neato, I know you're joking. As I am.)

    Pegleg

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    Brian,
    Thanks for the comments. My yamaha is the Rx-V2600 and does have YPAO and the "front" setting. I have choosen not to use this approach since I already EQ my Rythmik sub using a RS SPL meter(with the calibration file) and REW. I then make the appropriate adjustments on my Behringer FD to flatten the bass repsonse below 80hz in my room. The other issues above this crossover point are typically room related.

    There seems to be two camps on EQing speakers. One says you should treat the room, the source of the issue to begin with, and leave all alone with the speakers freq. respsonse. The second camp believes the Auto calibrations such as Audyssey and YPAO work for adjusting the sound. Since I already level matched all my speakers, EQ'ed the sub, and set distances etc by hand with the RS SPL meter, what more could be done with YPAO?

    Just picking your brain

    Brandon

    Quote Originally Posted by hearing specialist View Post
    merrymaid, coming from a guy who religously uses my YPAO, if you haven't tried it you have no idea how it will transform the sound of your towers, imo. If your Yammy has the "Front" calibration program I would use that of the 3 choices (Front, Flat, or Natural). You can also set the towers to "Large" and still have them crossed over at 40hz and let your Rythmics take it from 40hz (40hz is lowest setting) down for movies and for PCM 2.0 processing to allow your towers to still rock fullrange. The Parametric program within YPAO is very powerful and exact and using "Front" will allow these to demo their fantastic abilities.

    I have countless hours using YPAO and configuration schemes with my Yamaha receiver always trying to extract the best sound and experimenting with the boundaries of the Yamaha processing. I have to fully believe in proper setup to extract the flavor of these awesome towers.


    Brian in Bakersfield...

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    Brandon, when you get a chance could you please measure the height of the binding posts above the floor? From Dave's pics I would estimate ~ 18" but an exact measurement would help.

    Speaker cable considerations...

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