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    Default Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Hello all, I am looking to upgrade my current speakers for my home theater. My current speakers I feel are too small and do not fill the room very well and I am interested in perhaps trying either the 340 SE's or Sierra's. I really need a much larger sound stage. The Sierra's would be at the top of my price range so that rules out the yet to be released towers.

    Receiver:
    Onkyo TX-SR 705

    Current speakers:
    Energy RC-10 mains
    Energy RC-LCR center

    Sub:
    Elemental Designs A2 - 300 Subwoofer

    Listening preference:
    100% movies

    Room dimensions:
    30 X 16

    I'm not concerned with surrounds at the moment, just my front stage. I would also consider adding a nice 3 channel power amp (Emotiva, etc.) in the future and I will definitely be adding acoustic panels in the future. Your input as to which speaker would be a good fit for me would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Out of curiosity do you currently have a subwoofer in your home theater setup?
    Andrew
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    TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P55ST30 55-Inch 1080p 3D Plasma
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR706, Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2, Blu Ray: Sony BDP-N460
    Fronts/Center/Surrounds: Sierra Towers Nrt, Sierra-1, HTM-200
    Sub: HSU VTF-3 MK-4

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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Oh I'm sorry, I left that out. I'll edit the post to include my Elemental Designs A2 - 300 Subwoofer. It's not any extra bass that I'm looking for, just more room filling mids and highs with a larger soundstage.

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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by statonj View Post
    Oh I'm sorry, I left that out. I'll edit the post to include my Elemental Designs A2 - 300 Subwoofer. It's not any extra bass that I'm looking for, just more room filling mids and highs with a larger soundstage.
    Given it's 100% movies, you might want to go with 340SE..
    If you choose sierra, you will start listening to more music

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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    I would go with the 340se if I were you. Seeing as it is for 100% movies and you have a good subwoofer I don't think you would benefit much from the added bass extension of the Sierras. The 340's should give you the great midrange and highs you are looking for along with the output you need to fill your room. Your Onkyo should have no trouble driving the 340's quite loud. Unless you like listening and extremely loud volumes I don't think you'll need a three channel power amp.
    Andrew
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    TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P55ST30 55-Inch 1080p 3D Plasma
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR706, Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2, Blu Ray: Sony BDP-N460
    Fronts/Center/Surrounds: Sierra Towers Nrt, Sierra-1, HTM-200
    Sub: HSU VTF-3 MK-4

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    Default Both are good choices

    I know you said you're not interested in surrounds now, but here's one way of looking at it.

    For the same money, you can get either Sierra L/C/R or 340 L/C/R, 170 side surrounds and 200 rear surrounds.

    One thing I like about Ascend and Dave is their integrity. I emailed them before buying my setup. I explained my situation and instead of automatically recommending the TOTL Sierra's, Dave actually felt I would be just as pleased with 340's! That's why I'll come back to Sierra if I need more speakers or upgrade. The problem is, my Ascend combo sounds so good I'm in no hurry!

    I'm hesitant to advise since I've never heard Sierras, but I can assure you that you'll be pleased with 340's. One thing I've read about Energy speakers is they run out of gas when asked to play loud. That won't be a problem with 340's, they easily play louder than I ever listen, and on some concert videos and the few action movies I watch, I crank it pretty high.

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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Get a pair of RC-50 from vanns for about $500 and move those RC-10 to the rear and be done
    CBM-170 L,C,R,LS,RS,BS
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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by moehop View Post
    Get a pair of RC-50 from vanns for about $500 and move those RC-10 to the rear and be done

    That is what I ended up doing after much thought on the subject. I wish I could hear the 2 brands of speakers back to back but I don't want to pay to ship anything back after demoing it. I appreciate the feedback from everyone.

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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Statonj,
    I have the original 340s for the L/R and the 340 center. A pair of 240s for the surround. My room is very close to your size. A Yamaha receiver with 95 watts per channel drives the speakers. I have NEVER regretted buying the 340s. They will more than fill your room. And remember I have the old 340s. The new ones are even better!
    Tom

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    Default Re: Which Ascend speaker is for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by DougMac View Post
    One thing I've read about Energy speakers is they run out of gas when asked to play loud.
    Really - where did you read that? The RC line is not 'forward' sounding like some speakers (think Paradigm Monitors) but they can play plenty loud and definitely DO NOT run out of gas.

    Quote Originally Posted by moehop View Post
    Get a pair of RC-50 from vanns for about $500 and move those RC-10 to the rear and be done
    That's a great price

    Quote Originally Posted by statonj View Post
    That is what I ended up doing after much thought on the subject. I wish I could hear the 2 brands of speakers back to back but I don't want to pay to ship anything back after demoing it. I appreciate the feedback from everyone.
    How 'bout this:



    Pictured (from left to right): Polk RT800i's, Energy RC-10's, Ascend 340 Classics, Energy RC-70, Energy Veritas 2.2i (best bookshelf of the bunch by far - and by far the most expensive), Totem Hawk, Ascend CBM 170 Classic, and just sneaking in the Energy RC-LCR

    I went with the RC-70's, not the RC-50's. These speakers are fantastic for music. Best way I can describe them is that the Ascends offer more of a detailed, forward sound. The Energy speakers offer the same details but in a more 3 dimensional sound. Also, back to that 'running out of gas' comment, the RC speakers cannot only go very loud, but do so without being irritating. I cannot play my 340's as loud as the RC's because it gets too annoying (btw - I'm not speaking sane levels here). With the RC's, you don't even notice they're on that loud until someone comes in to the room and starts talking to you (shouting actually) and you can barely here them. I guess 'smooth' would be another adjective I'd use for them.

    And yes, I still have all those speakers (I have two surround setups, one in a bonus room, one in my family room, plus I have a dedicated 2.1 channel listening room with a tube amp, and next year I will be building a dedicated h/t room in the basement just for movies). This is a picture I took for insurance purposes, I had them all in my bonus room to do a bit of a mini-shootout for myself to decide what I was going to put where. Since this room is where I do my movie watching and multi-channel music listening, this is where I tested it. I also have in the room an SVS Ultra 13 Sub. That combined with the RC's I'm using.... lets just say there's lots of gas in the tank

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