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Thread: Have new DVD-A/SACD player coming in Thursday

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    As an aside, i love great music and music quality, but i just dont love it enough to buy, say, denon stereo parts. I spent more than i normally would on my speakers (5.1 ascend,HSU) simply because, unlike audio receivers, dvds, etc, these can realistally be used for many years, perhaps 20 years or more if i really take care of them. However, with stereo components, there will always be the next best thing coming out every couple years (ie; dolby labs advancements), so i just cant afford to buy, say, 1K dollar receivers, and dvd players that cost too much.

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    yes.....it is above 100hz. It is something like 120hz for DVD-A and 200mhz for SACD...or the other way around. It is not listed in the manual.

    I allow for the HK 525 and Sherwood Newcastle P-965 to handle the bass management. Yes, it is converted back to digital to do this, but it still sounds great to me.

    No need for special cables, 6 RCA cables will do it.

    -curtis

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    Well, it sounds great and the progressive scan picture is a much better improvement over just letting my HDTV do the 3:2 pulldown, 480p conversion.

    The bass management on the pioneer 578 is similar to my receivers, in that it allows you to set the 5 main speakers to large or small. Having tried it both ways, its sounded notably better on small. The manual didnt mention was the crossover point was (with the speakers set to small), but the sound was very rich with plenty of smooth depth, and i wasnt perceiving any sound holes.

    SACD/DVD-A is obviously a step up in quality; i was hearing wonderful directionality and fidelity that far transended what I was hearing on DPLII music mode.

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    Glad to hear the unit is giving you the desired results...always a good thing! The SACD/DVD-A sound SHOULD be better with speakers set to "Small", as this will route the low freq's to the sub where setting to large will not. My main point is with the 563's bass management. As Curtis said, SACD is 120hz and DVD-A is 200hz. My sub does not allow for bypassing the internal crossover. 120hz is okay, though not optimal, but my highest setting is 150hz which would leave a 50hz hole in the sound with DVD-A's. since the woofer in my sub is 12", I'd like to keep it below 100hz. I only have one SACD right now, Peter Gabriel's "Shaking the Tree", so I haven't tried DVD-A yet! As for progressive scan performance...only a dream for now as I am struggling to replace my 27" Panasonic that lost it's power supply, an I.C. and two cap's!

    Ed

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">My main point is with the 563's bass management.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
    I wonder if the 578's is the same. If any of you guys find out, let me know.

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    I just discovered something REALLY cool about the 563a!! I had "The Mummy Returns" out from the library and stopped it in the middle of the fight with the the "Pygmes", for lack of a better term. My wife took it out of the player to return it for me. She renewed it instead. I'm expecting to have to scene index to find where I had left off....but no, I put the disc in and got a "last memory" in the display. I hit play and it starts exactly where I left off....COOL!!!! My old player would have lost it's place once the disc was removed.

    Ed

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    Oh yeah....most players do that nowadays. Great feature!

    -curtis

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    Not a bad movie either! I picked up a used tv over the weekend as my finances would not permit fixing the 27" Panny at this time. I found a 20" JVC with all the inputs I need(including component)with Hyper-surround,black level expansion, 3line digital comb and it even has a Theater-pro K6500 video setting!! With my "trade" it was $75 out the door....not bad, huh?

    Ed

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    Just found this at AVS:

    "The DV-578A-S is ONLY available in silver and the cross-over point for SACD is set at 80Hz (no bass management is available on SACD in accordance with the "red book" specifications) and for DVD-Audio, it can be set to either 80 Hz (large front speakers) or 120Hz (small front speakers).

    Regards,

    Roger R. Archambault
    Senior Product Specialist
    Pioneer Electronics of Canada, Inc.
    300 Allstate Parkway
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    Customer Satisfaction
    Pioneer Electronics of Canada
    300 Allstate Parkway
    Markham Ontario L3R 0P2
    Toll free: 1 (877) 283 5901
    Fax: 1 (877) 746 4848"

    Hmm, guess i need to set it to large then since ascends can do 80hz np and since 120hz is too high for a VTF-2. Guess i'll also get DVD-A's, given a choice :-).

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    Son of a...I quess they addressed the bass management issues. Hmmm, I wonder how liberal Circuit City's return policy is!!

    Ed

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