Recievers with Ascends

[jbliz]

Mag_Neato,

That new Outlaw receiver has it all. Do you have any idea what the price will be?

John

[Mag_Neato]

It is only stated as "under $1000....I'd guess somewhere around $700?

[jbliz]

Yeah, I did some research over at the outlaw forum and saw the same thing..."under $1000". Dude, the 1070 is a smoking deal. My only major gripe is the lack of firewire input. However, i can live without it, especially since it provides bass management through the analog multichannel audio inputs. Well, I guess I have one more major gripe........IT'S NOT COMING OUT UNTIL DEC/JAN!!!!!

Man, i wish it was out now.

[Jonnyozero3]

Damnit...I just typed a long response but forgot my username etc. Shoot.

Okay, I said something like "blah blah thanks guys for all the inputs!" and I mentioned that I've always liked Harman's and its good to know that their budget models power the CBMs just fine. I've listend to Denon's and Onkyo's and Yamaha's, but I always seem to prefer the HK's. I will have to check out that Outlaw however (the old one)...sounds like a really good deal. Now I just have to find more money! Haha.

well...back to browsing the new site...

[metalaaron]

all of the above are great receivers. can't go wrong!

jonny - i would recommend that you browse around on ebay or find a good used HK.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...705180666&rd=1

i use an onkyo tx-nr801 and i love it. the net-tune feature is pretty unique and worthwhile. i can play every single mp3 on my computer, create playlists, etc. w/o changing CDs. files recorded at 320kbps sound better than some of the CDs i have. it came down between an HK and an Onkyo. i just benefited more from the net-tune feature (because i'm a nerd) so i chose the onkyo. [8D]

[Jonnyozero3]

Well, sounds like I have a lot of listening to do over the next several months. It is good to know that all these budget models have decent reputations. I'm going to check into the Outlaw a bit, and I think the Harman Kardon line will be at the top of my list for now. Thanks for the help guys. Now I just need to start saving up my pennies...

[azanon]

Get the nice speakers (ascends+nice sub) and cheap everything else, and enjoy sooner. I use a 200 dollar sony and just got in a 160 dollar pioneer sacd/dvd-a player last night (578 model). I sat last night listening to my collection of dvd-as/sacd's last night and all i could say was "perfection" and the smile just wouldnt go away.

When clutchbrake came over to balance my system, he had a denon 3803 in hand. Still, besides making a comment that my sony didnt allow very precise balancing from the front, I got the feeling his impression of my receiver was that was doing just fine. We didnt have time to swap for a comparison, but i seriously doubt I would have been able to tell the difference in a blind test.

My only point is I can tell you from personal experience ascends sound just wonderful with cheap everything else. Great sound is 90%+ your speakers, IMHO.

[azanon]

.... that is, provided your receiver can do the latest tricks and has the appropriate jacks, of course (DD 5.1, DTS, DPLII, sub out, 5.1 analog inputs, etc.)

[CraigT]

I had one of the new $300 range Sony receivers and had issues with sub integration. Maybe a high crossover or maybe the bass management on this particualr unit was not good. When I got a H/K it was a big improvement even in 2 channel w/o sub. I listened to the Denon 3805 and Yamahas at the store and even took home the Yamaha RV2400(something like that) for a night. To me the H/K was much better than the cheap Sony and had a more natural sound than the Yamaha.

[Mag_Neato]

If I were to buy a receiver today I would probably wait for the new Outlaw unit due in Dec/Jan. If I just could not wait until then I'd go with an HK. To me, my Outlaw 1050 was a STEAL when they lowered the price to $499. It just flat out buried my old $1000 Marantz(which I only had for a few years)rated at 110 watts x 3 for the front, 75 watts x 2 for surrounds. The Outlaw has 6 x 65 watt channels rated as 65 watts/channel, 3 channels driven. I was a bit skeptical at first if this would be enough power in a 13'x 18' room w/ 8' ceiling, but figured I'd give all the positive reviews a chance. I'v never looked back! With the adjustable crossover(60,80,100,120,150,200hz)this baby can be used with virtually ANY speaker system. It brought me very close to the sound I had when I ran seperates in a stereo setup using a Rotel amp and NAD Preamp.

Ed