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If anyone reads French, try this site:
http://www.dslvalley.com/forum/forum...D=1961&ID=0100
I searched for "musix74" on vivisimo.com and found "musix74@aol.com" as well as a few threads, all in French.
Pegleg
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<font face="Georgia"></font id="Georgia">It's so easy to love this company. I realy appreciate David's honesty and openess about Acsend. I have never worke with a company that I appreciated more. I find the more I know about Acsend the more I like them as a whole. Is there anywere you can find customer service as good as here? I've never heard of it.
I often get fooled into thinking I've bought a $2000 speaker when I sit back, close my eyes and just melt into the music.
When I deal with customer servise or read about Ascends customer service I get fooled into thinking I bought a $20,000 speaker.
I tell my wife all the time in complete amazment "I cant believe I pay $350 for both these speakers!"
Anyway I'd like to puplicly than David for all the ward work and graciousness that he runs Ascends with. Also knowing that any great leader is only sucseccfull with those unsung heros I'd like to thank the Ascend team for all thier dedication. We are blessed!
Thank you.
JH
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Dave, I can't 100% for sure...but I believe this is Mad Dog from the Rocket Forum and Avsforum.
He is constantly hyping Rockets everywhere.
He has made multiple posts in other forums putting down the CMT center, describing M T M configuration and how they cause lobing. Also, he always shares his opinion that Ascends are Fugly.
The fact that he is pushing Rockets would almost cement his identity.
He does not own Ascends.
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My review of the 340C is up now - he got bumped :-)
Azanon
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While, Mad Dog's fevor towards all things Onix/Rockets has IMO increased. I really doubt he would do such a thing. He frequently posts that the Ascend 170s are a great value. Now as for someone cutting and pasting from one of his posts is quite possible.
Your feelings toward Mad Dog reminds me of some emails Curtis and I traded right before Smokey with Curtis' assistance got this forum on-line. Those e-mails were how to keep this place and our posts on other boards helpful and informative regarding Ascend w/o creating any backlash like the Rockets' crowds have done a number of times.
If you were reading AVSforum previous to about six months ago you likely saw how much time MLS of AV123 spent defending positions that Rocket-heads had put him in. Also, the number of threads locked down because of the firestorm that occurred anytime a poster questioned a Rockets product or MLS was pretty high. I personally think the av123 forum came about because it was easier for MLS to give the Rocket/Onix/Perpetual Technologies fans a place to post and pat each on the back w/o causing an uproar on one the boards, then it was for him to spend so much time defending himself and his products on other boards. Again, these were positions that Rocket fans had managed to put him in not anything he'd done himself. Avsforum was the second home of the Rocketeers. I believe they,the rocket crowd, settled in there after getting tired of the hostilities at Harmonic Discord after much of the same stuff.
It was not all their fault but how you respond to trolls, and there were many, effects perception of the company in addition to the poster.
And now I can't stand to go on av123 community and only do so to checkout a post referenced from another board. I still have a negative view of the Rocketeers to this day and am so sick of them I'll likely never buy an av123 product. BTW-- I do recommend the ELT to those whose parameters it fits. I can also vouch for the great CS at av123 as I bought speaker cable from there before I got sick of it all.
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I doubt as well that it was Mad Dog. I met him and his lovely wife at the Onix room (no surprise there?) at CES. While he is very vocal about his support for everything AV123, I got the impression that he is also honest.
This bad review issue has thus been resolved. Neither Ascend nor ConsumerReview were able to establish any contact with this supposed customer. I personally attempted contact several times in order to offer a full refund for the return of the speakers. As I expected, I did not receive a reply and ConsumerReview made several attempts as well.
It is one thing to share your opinion about a product, provided you own or auditioned the product. It is an entirely different matter to shamelessly plug a competing product without ANY cause or justification other than to damage a product or company's reputation.
Good Sound To You!
David Fabrikant
www.ascendacoustics.com
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Just a brief note to thank ALL of you for your kind words and support. Comments like yours are what motivates me to continue to introduce top quality products!
Good Sound To You!
David Fabrikant
www.ascendacoustics.com
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Not to push this any further...
If I'm wrong, then I apologize. But here is Mad Dog's post from the av123.com forum...
He rips the 340 exactly like the audio review forum.
Notice he uses all the same terms from the bad review on Audio REview..."lobing", "MTM", "FUGLY", "Rockets" are better, etc.
Judge for yourself
Excerpt:
now curtis was kind enough to bring the 340 center by to a/b with the ELT center. while curtis preferred the 340 center over the ELT center due to the extra bass extension, we both agreed that the ELT center was more forward in sound and presentation. i liked the forward nature of the ELT center as it projected vocals better which is what i look for in a good center channel. the 340C by contrast sounded like the vocals were coming from inside the cabinet. not something that i like in my center channels. i attributed the differences to the respective speaker driver arrangements. the ascend uses a MTM (mid tweeter mid) driver arrangement which has been criticized for lobing effects when used in a horizontal position. this lobing effect primarily detracts from the clarity in the mids and highs, most of the frequencies used to reproduce voices. the ELT center uses a tweeter over mid with 2 woofers on either side of the tweeter and mid. this driver arrangement allows for superior clarity and focus in a center channel. if you look at most of the excellent performing high dollar center channels such as the Aerial Acoustics CC5 ($3,500) and CC3B ($1,600), the Revel C30, C32, C50 and Voice, and the Rocket RSC-200, you'll see that the ELT center borrows the same driver arrangement. in a stacked comparison, I also found that the ELT center was not only clearer sounding but also cleaner sounding able to be driven to higher volume levels (95+dBs) without compressing and falling apart. i find these traits VERY important in a center channel. for me, the ELT clearly outperformed the Ascend 340C.
now as far as looks are concerned...i have never been one to hide my feeling here...i've said it 1000 times and i'll say it again...the shape of the CBM-170s are flat out FUGLY! yes, that's right...FUGLY! they are squat shaped rectangular boxes that can easily be mistaken as squares at a glance. finish is solid but there is nothing special about molded black vinyl...for me, they definitely received demerit points for WAF aka appearance...the ELTs in contrast are much more attractive finished in real birch wood veneer stained in cherry.
my scorecard:
170s vs. ELT sats: nod goes to 170s
340C vs ELT-C: ELT center by no small margin. yeah, the 340C extends lower w/ bass, but it gave up alot in clarity and forwardness as well as taking a back seat to the ELT center when being driven hard.
looks and cabinet quality: ELTs by a landslide. no comparison. while curtis and i don't see eye to eye on everything Onix and Ascend related, this is something even he won't and can't deny.
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FWIW:
Mad Dog came over to my place last night to pick up the pair of ACI Sapphires I had on demo. Ofcourse we started conversing on speakers and CES. Two or three times he commented on the CMT-340, "that is a damn good speaker."
-curtis
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Well if it was him, he "demoed" the speakers, hence the review should have stayed. Come to think of it, i dont recall when i signed up at audioreview.com any agreement that mandated I have to respond to any emails for my opinion to stand.
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