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Thread: Remedying weak bass of 340SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackT
    Hasn't davef stated explicitly that they ARE full range speakers?
    He said that you don't have to be afraid to run them full range with the new polygel woofer....where with the old Aerogel woofer had reliability issues when run full range and louder volumes.

    The new SE's do have more bass extension too.
    -curtis

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    Full range speakers should be able to reproduce from 20Hz to 20khz. Clearly not something the 340s can do. A subwoofer is recommended to fill in the bass that the 340s cannot provide. You're probably not going to be able to find any full range speakers within the price range of the Ascends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Bailey
    Full range speakers should be able to reproduce from 20Hz to 20khz.
    I disagree on this. There's so little content down that low that a speaker can be considered full range @ a much higher freq.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Bailey
    You're probably not going to be able to find any full range speakers within the price range of the Ascends.
    It's my limited opinion that no speaker within a thousand dollars of a 340 will competently do 20-20k. Too many compromises to get it all right. Maybe I'm just too picky about that.

    David

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    I guess back in the old days when I purchased the Jensens 21 years ago, there really was no stand-alone subwoofer (as I remember it), so the bookshelf speakers were designed to go pretty low. Anyway, SVS woofer is coming tomorrow, so we shall see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by incyphe
    After 2 months of waiting, I finally received my 340SE today. Yay~

    I hooked them up to HK635 and the first thing I noticed was the lack of bass. (I also noticed the superior sound clarity, but that's not the problem of course)
    I also got my speakers this week (yay!) and they are hooked up to a hk635. The bass seems fine, works as advertised (can go to around 45hz). I tend to leave my subwoofer off for non-demanding bass music. I have 340SE's for LCR and 170SE for surround side.

    Did you rerun the HK auto config (EZset with the microphone) with your new speakers? It may be using an old setting. I didnt like the job the auto-eq did with my setup (it took a lot of the mid-low/bass out) and it was really noticable when in stereo so I disabled the auto-eq settings.

    That being said you still want to get a sub though for the sub 40hz..

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    Bikeman, Full Range is just that. 20hz to 20khz. So-called limits of human hearing.
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    Surrounds: Ascend CBM-170
    Sub: SVS 25-31PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganto
    I also got my speakers this week (yay!) and they are hooked up to a hk635. The bass seems fine, works as advertised (can go to around 45hz). I tend to leave my subwoofer off for non-demanding bass music. I have 340SE's for LCR and 170SE for surround side.

    Did you rerun the HK auto config (EZset with the microphone) with your new speakers? It may be using an old setting. I didnt like the job the auto-eq did with my setup (it took a lot of the mid-low/bass out) and it was really noticable when in stereo so I disabled the auto-eq settings.

    That being said you still want to get a sub though for the sub 40hz..
    Yes! I got my SVS sub today. This thing is a lot bigger than I thought.

    Anyway, when I hooked it up and played a song that had a lot of house shaking bass, the first thing that came to my mind was "oh %$#^, I didn't just spend $650 on that anemic sounding thing..."

    Then as per your suggestion, I ran through the EZset with mic and it made a tremendous difference. Even at low volume, my door frame was shaking.

    woohoo!

    Thanks everyone again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Bailey
    Bikeman, Full Range is just that. 20hz to 20khz.
    Only if you want it to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Bailey
    So-called limits of human hearing.
    It's not the limits of human hearing. It's a generalization.

    David

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    I'll just say that I'll agree to disagree with you on the full range speaker rating.
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    Outlaw 990/7125 PrePro/Amp
    Panasonic BD10 Blu-Ray Player
    Mains: Ascend CMT-340M
    Center: Ascend CMT-340C
    Surrounds: Ascend CBM-170
    Sub: SVS 25-31PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by incyphe
    woohoo!
    Good to hear. Sounds like your problem's solved but was just thinking of your original post. You said the Jensens had more "oomph", but what was the quality of that "oomph". Clean and tight or loud and floppy? Bass quality is important too.

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