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Thread: We really need a 200SE

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    Default We really need a 200SE

    I'm really impressed with the response curve of the new 170SE. No peaks or dips.

    But, now Ascend seems to have created a problem for those of us that need a center speaker. The 200 is the perfect size to fit in front of an HDTV. It's only 6.5 inches high.

    A center speaker handles so much of both music or a soundtrack -- so one really would like the new tweeter in the center channel.

    The marketing material says the 200 is "timber matched" but it's unclear what that REALLY means. It seems to me unless the tweeter is exactly the same -- the center will always sound different. And, if the new tweeter really sounds better -- then the 200 logically sounds worse.

    I do see a pix of a 170SE tipped on it's side, but I'm not sure that is such a good idea. If it was -- then why have "center speakers" been developed.

    We really need a 200SE which should be a trival enhancement.

    Advice?

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    Agreed. After all the raving about the new tweeter, it seems kind of odd to say it wouldn't really help the 200. David said it would make the 200 cost more, but I think the main reason people get the 200 is not price, but it's small size... maybe I'm wrong?

    Anyway, the current 200 is a great speaker, and I plan to get a couple more in the near future, SE or not. They will go along with a 340SE front stage, and I'm sure they will sound great.

    The 200s sound so good as my main speakers right now, it seems almost a crime to relegate them to surround duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_rangeBrew
    Agreed. After all the raving about the new tweeter, it seems kind of odd to say it wouldn't really help the 200. David said it would make the 200 cost more, but I think the main reason people get the 200 is not price, but it's small size... maybe I'm wrong?
    The price increase from the 170 to 170SE wasn't much -- was it?

    Yes -- the 200 is important because of its small size!

    I think I'll wait until the new tweeter is added to make a 200SE.

    The current 200 can be used for the surrounds.

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    Hi guys,

    Believe me.. I am reading this thread

    Take care!
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    David Fabrikant
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    Quote Originally Posted by davef
    Hi guys,

    Believe me.. I am reading this thread

    Take care!
    What a tease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davef
    Hi guys,

    Believe me.. I am reading this thread

    Take care!
    Well then Dave, any word on the imagers yet?
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    Imagers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davef
    Hi guys,

    Believe me.. I am reading this thread

    Take care!
    A pair of 200SE's would sure sound great as my rears in a 7.1 setup with 340SE's across the front and 170SE's at the sides

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    I just wanted to chime in and say like I've said elsewhere that I agree 100%. I'd love for the four HTM-200's I plan to buy for my 7.1 system to be "SE" models with the upgraded tweeter, and would gladly pay the difference. I'm not buying the HTMs because they're cheaper. I'm buying them for the form factor and because I need a sealed design for wall-mounting these in my space-limited room.

    C'mon Dave! Let's see some HTM love!

    Question for those who've upgraded their classic CBMs or CMTs (and first let me say serious, serious kudos to Dave for making this possible when considering the new design): how much of a pain was that in terms of shipping and cost to get them done? If there's a possibility for HTMs to get the SE treatment...should I be waiting, or should I jump in and hope for an upgrade later?

    With a set of CMT-340 SEs planned across the front, I'm already jealous of not being able to install the CBM-170 SEs in side and rear duty with their exactly matching tweeters and their perfectly matching 6.5" aerogel drivers. I really, really want HTM-200 SEs that give me at least the tweeter...the important part for the frequency spectrum thrown at these.

    D@mn my own fussy, nitpicking nature! But then, that's why I want Ascends (and why I like martinis, but that's not important right now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samurai Jack
    Question for those who've upgraded their classic CBMs or CMTs (and first let me say serious, serious kudos to Dave for making this possible when considering the new design): how much of a pain was that in terms of shipping and cost to get them done? If there's a possibility for HTMs to get the SE treatment...should I be waiting, or should I jump in and hope for an upgrade later?
    I'm having a pair of 170s upgraded and it cost me $20 to ship them from Colorado to Ascend via UPS ground. Plus the actual upgrade cost of $80/each puts me at $180 total. (Actually, I'm not sure if the upgrade cost includes return shipping or if that will be another $20 - I'll ask when I call in to pay for the upgrade, which I should do sometime soon )

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