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    The driver is not aerogel, but I'm not certain of the composition.

    I don't think it's 'safe' to make any assumptions about a speaker before hearing it.

    It looks like the AV123 forum is continuing to have DB trouble, so I can't see the FR graph Mark posted. I'm guessing he ran it through his CLIO setup - that will be clear when I can see the graph.

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    I have heard Danny Ritchie's AV2 in my own home......a very nice speaker. It also measures very flat, but is different than the CBM-170 and CMT-340.

    The XLS looks to be a great deal at $189, but I will make a prediction that it does not sound like an Ascend Acoustics speaker.
    -curtis

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    Brad- How was it voiced?

    I'm making the assumption because 35hz is a lot to ask of a 6.5 inch driver while covering the mid-range too. I've heard a few monitors that go low but the mid-range detail is challanged in the process. Even the Ref 1s at $1500 loses a little in the mid-range detail to get it's bass in my opinion.

    When the 170 does 75%or more of the Ref1. If you knock off the 170 you going to knock out the Ref1 too.

    Of course, someone could come up with new technology and make it happen. I doubt that is going to occur under $200.
    Last edited by Quinn; 08-17-2005 at 01:53 PM.

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    Curtis, I wouldn't assume that either. They didn't sound like the AV series from my recollection of the AV-1. I remember those as sounding distinctly different than the Ascends when A/Bed. As I said, I want to wait until I have a factory pair before making comparisons.

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    OK.....I trust your judgement.

    When will they be available?
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    Kinda hard to compare a speaker you can't buy yet

    I'm sure it will be a good bargain for the price.

    Brad, I'll be waiting your official A/B comparo
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    I don't know when they will start shipping. I know this pair was the first time Danny saw the final cabinet and he seemed to approve (except for one minor change). It sounded like the crossover design was final, so I'm guessing it's a matter of parts availability and ramping up production. My best guess is 2-3 months assuming no component sourcing problems.

    It also isn't clear if the final version will be shielded or not. The demo pair was not shielded, but it seemed up in the air for the production version. I like that Ascend just makes everything shielded so you don't have to think twice about it.

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    I believe end of November, early December before they start shipping.

    Really curious as to how they will compare to the Ascends. I hear they are way too good for the price.......time will tell!
    Ed

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    * Audio by Van Alstine DVA-M225 Monoblock Amps
    * MiniDSP 2x4HD For Sub calibration
    *World's Best Cables Canare 4S11 speaker cables

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    The graph looks similar to the graph of the Athena B2s. It is decent but doesn't look overly accurate like the Ascends.

    EDIT: I found a couple of pics:


    Last edited by jermy4; 09-02-2005 at 11:17 AM.

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    Where's the graph? Who measured them?
    -curtis

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