My suggestion:
Sierra-1 C-SAT
Sierra-1N C-SAT
Sierra-2 C-SAT
As was my line of reasoning with the non-center Sats, match the numeric designation with the full size Sierra line.
So.....
Sierra-1 SAT
Sierra-1N SAT
Sierra-2 SAT
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Dave,
Another member asked about Ascend speakers as studio monitors, I like the idea but find Sierra-1/2 to be a bit too big to placed on desk
IMO, the upcoming Sierra Satellite is just the perfect size and I am curious to hear your assessment on how it will perform as studio monitors or near field monitors placed on computer desk..
I know this doesn't really answer your question but I bought my Sierra 1s for use as my desktop computer speakers and I'm actually listening to them right now. I had them upgraded to Sierra 2s and both versions worked absolutely perfectly in the nearfield (roughly 3' in front of my face on either side of my iMac). The original Sierra 1s sounded best with a port plug because I keep my desk fairly close to the wall (just under 1' between the speaker and back wall), the 2s don't need the port plugs and do fine near the wall.
How good would a CMT 340 left front and center work with a 18 inch sealed sub?
I was just kinda scared that it may be to much sub for it
I think it was mentioned earlier, but people have a way of abbreviating virtually everything anyway so maybe:
Sat - Sierra 1
nSat - with NrT
rSat - with Raal
At first I was intrigued by naming in parallel with the "big brothers" (Sierra 1, Sierra 2) but to me these are a different animal so the name should probably reflect that.
Bummed the prototype isn't done just yet, as picking up my Sierra 2's on Friday.
Here ya go!!!
Sample cabinet came out absolutely perfect and so far my modeling has proven accurate. The complex porting and tuning is ideal and this little dude has some serious kick! I am honestly not sure a speaker this small with this level of performance has ever been produced and this guy feels like you are literally holding a brick. Likely come in at about 9 pounds each and I don't believe we will have to make any changes to the cabinet. 10 5/8" high x 5 3/4" wide x 6" deep.
Enjoy the pics!
Awesome!! When will you know the price?
Absolutely beautiful, Dave! Super congrats!
Beautiful! Bet those will go very very well with a set of RAAL towers.
Keep them around a few years for when it's time to upgrade my HT set up!
Wow, look at that!!! The baby Sierra is born! :D Have you measured efficiency yet?
WOW they look amazing!
Can we get a couple pictures showing the back of the baby Sierra?
Awesome Dave. Congratulations on the new addition the family. I am sure the dude will keep you awake for a while now. When are you uploading the video of them playing " boom boom pow " ? LOL.
That natural Sat has my name all over it!!!
Way to go Dave. A lot of people will buy these for several applications.
The only comparable speakers that I can think of were my old Infinity Infinitesimals. The proto Brick Speaker. Arnie Nudell is still loving being active in the audio community.
http://hificollector.blogspot.com/20...nitesimal.html
I want two for surrounds and two for desktop speakers. You really should consider marketing them as desktop speakers as well, with the little mounts that aim them at your ears similar to what Emotiva sells. Those are the PERFECT dimensions for a killer desktop speaker. I cannot WAIT to get mine in satin black!!!
Looking good Dave!
I noticed that the new, smaller woofer has a 6-hole pattern Vs. the larger woofer in the Sierra-2 having only a 4-hole pattern. Any particular reason for this?
Also, since you took the time to design a front ported design to allow near/on wall placement, are the binding posts recessed?
Now a center of this design would fill out the family. :D
Congratulations on your new Baby!!!
It's beautiful! Dave, will all of the finishes have the reveal lines (which i LOVE!), or just the cabinets made in the US? I can't wait to order a pair (or two) of those in Espresso to match my RAAL Towers!
Wow, those look great. I'm thinking a pair of these with a nice sub in a smallish room would be an outstanding 2.1 system for music.
I have been planning to get a pair of CBM-170SE to upgrade my L/R mains (supported by the L12 Rythmik sub I already have), but now I MUST wait and see at what price point the baby Sierras will be.
I have height and depth constraints given my room layout and furniture, so if I can get a pair of small speakers that would sound even better than the CBM-170SE, I do not mind spending the extra money if the price is reasonable :D
Wondering when these will be ready for a listen? I'm heading back from San Diego next week and would be happy to take one for the team, stop in, and write up a brief review. :cool:
If there's any thoughts on finish yet I'm hoping for satin black bamboo. I think that would work really well on such a small speaker. Also it's good for folks who like to go grill-less - the inserts for the grill plugs stand out less.
I'm seeing that as an option for the towers, but not the Sierra 2's?
Wow, I never thought of going with a surround setup but after hearing how good the towers are, I may just have to invest in these to complete the setup!
Smaller than the HTM 200, esthetically more pleasing(although my 200 are finished in espresso) and providing a seamless integration with my mains...I'm sold, the 200 will now highlight a nice 2.0 system in my next garage. Now just waiting on the final cost....:)
Can't wait to get a pair of S3's.
This will definitely be a product I am interested in, I was just thinking the other day how much I wanted to switch out my surrounds to something that was closer to matching my Sierra Towers.
Hello DaveF, as it is customary, any information about the "baby" :D
Efficiency, FR, Power Handling, price????
Ok.. here we go...
Spent much of the weekend developing the preliminary crossover which then allows me to truly listen to the Sierra Sat. I was hoping for a less complex crossover than the Sierra-2, but at this point, that doesn't seem like it will be possible.
As it stands right now, the speaker measures well with fantastic transient accuracy and really unbelievable horizontal off-axis dispersion, thanks in part to the very narrow cabinet and smaller woofer. To get the needed warmth, efficiency will come in at an honest 84-84.5dB anechoic. Phase integration between the drivers is terrific and the speaker can easily be used as close to a listener's ear as they like -- even 6 inches away. Nominal impedance is a very easy 8ohm load with benign phase angles. No doubt the speaker will like some power, and power handling is excellent. I ran a single sat full range with deep bass tracks and hit 93dB at 12 feet back in a very well damped room. Our own HTM-200SE could not keep up with this. Crossed at 80Hz in a typical room, max spl is going to be crazy for a speaker this size.
Listening....
I expected to listen for an hour or two last night, and that session ended up being over 4 hours long and set me behind in half a dozen other tasks. Not a problem though as I left the office with a HUGE smile on my face :)
Since the start, I have been concerned if this would end up being a product we can actually sell. No doubt, it is going to be an expensive speaker - basically the same component costs as the Sierra-2. We have already invested a lot of time and expense into the Sat and last night was the time for me to make the call to either push forward or hang it up. Well, the good news is that was a very easy decision to make - the SAT was literally addicting to listen to. It is basically a Sierra-2 without that same level of dynamics and deep bass.
When we were investigating other high performance speakers similar to this size, I used our HTM-200SE as the benchmark and after every comparison, I came away much preferring our 200. In fact, I would say our 200's flat out crushed the competition in every performance category. In comparing the SSR (sierra sat ribbon) to the 200, the SSR crushed the 200 in every performance category, even in bass, which is something I had hoped for but didn't actually expect. Run full range, bass response comes in at somewhere between the 170 and 200. It is a bit shocking to hear some deep bass from a speaker this size but this amazing woofer combined with the complex porting worked perfectly.
Compared directly to its big brother, it is a perfect timbre match. The SSR won't measure quite as flat as the Sierra-2, but that is not the goal for this speaker. I am actually really excited to have a listen once again as the detail, musicality, unbelievable transparency (the speaker completely disappears) and the overall amount of sound coming from this little box is shocking...
All that said, we are not there just yet... From here I have to optimize the crossover and then figure out some way to fit the components onto a PCB that can actually fit into the cabinet. That is going to be a challenge as there is very little room in there.
Here is a pic from late last night... Maybe I will do a boom boom pow video again, lol.
Enjoy!
Holy cow Dave! Excellent job!
I may just have to pick up a pair for the rears to match my Sierra-2s, or for another room all together.
Dave, thanks for the report! I wish I had a reason like this to stay late at the office :D.
Since you mentioned efficiency and SPL: At this time my amp is an Emotiva Fusion 8100, capable of very real 5x80W or 2x120W (all channels active). My room is 13x17x8, with the listening position about 10' from the front speakers.
Do you believe the baby Sierras would provide enough SPL if used as L/R mains, crossed at 80Hz in conjunction with my Rythmik L12 sub?
Until you posted the news about the Sierra Sat being in the work I have been thinking about either the HTM-200 or more likely the CBM-170, not only for the dimensions (my primary constraint) but also for their sensitivity.
The Sierra Sat would definitely be a step above in overall sound quality, but I am a little worried about giving up the extra sensitivity, especially compared to the CBM-170.
What are your thoughts about the Sierra Sat at the conditions outlined above?
Thanks!!!