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Below is what we are calling our black sand finish. This is a non-reflective, textured black paint that is extremely durable. It is the same finish that is used on M&K speakers. I personally think it is a great finish for the towers, especially for those who will be using the towers in a dedicated theater room.
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Below are what we are calling our high gloss black (80 sheen) and satin black (20 sheen). Both are a smooth black finish, that upon very close inspection, will reveal a slight amount of the unique grain of the natural wood.
Note: high gloss black is not piano black. Our piano black offers a true mirror-like finish.
We tried to capture the difference in reflectivity between the high gloss and satin finish.
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Finish Pricing
Below is the pre-order pricing with the different finish options:
Natural finish (identical to Sierra-1) = $1898/pr + shipping (with satin black base)
Black Sand Finish = $1898/pr + shipping (with black sand base)
Espresso = $1998/pr + shipping (with satin black base)
Dark Cherry = $1998/pr + shipping (with satin black base)
Satin Black = $1998/pr + shipping (with satin black base)
High Gloss Black = $1998/pr + shipping (with high gloss base)
True Piano Black = $2598 + shipping (with piano black base)
Due to the high cost of the American made piano black, we are considering using our Sierra-1 cabinet maker for piano black, which will reduce the retail cost of the piano black option by approximately $500. However, I must say that the quality of the American made piano black (hand buffed polyester resin based) is notably superior. In addition, I would estimate that it will be at least 5 - 6 months before we have any of the lower cost piano black towers available for sale.
For those of you on our tower pre-order list, we will be confirming finish options with you over the next few days. I should mention that it is highly doubtful that we will be able to maintain this initial pre-order pricing. Our profit margin at these intro prices is far below industry standards and that is without factoring in our own internal labor for assembly, testing and packaging.
Thanks again for your patience!
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Without having to read 12 pages, do the Towers use the NRT tweeter?
I assume they do, I'm just not digging the pages is all.
Thanks
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muzz
Without having to read 12 pages, do the Towers use the NRT tweeter?
I assume they do, I'm just not digging the pages is all.
Thanks
Yes, they use the same NrT tweeter and slightly modified sierra-1 drivers.
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Just need to decide between high gloss or satin black. Would love to see pictures of the speakers in these finishes from a distance as well.
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So the prices will get a hike soon. That's going to make it that much more unobtainable for me. I am going to have to formulate a plan that will get these into my hands some day. A small savings plan of some sort.
In the mean time I will just have to be content with my Sierra NrT's!
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merrymaid520
Yes, they use the same NrT tweeter and slightly modified sierra-1 drivers.
and that sweet midrange driver! :)
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Mag_Neato
In the mean time I will just have to be content with my Sierra NrT's!
After finally hearing a pair of NrT's in my room last weekend, that is certainly nothing to feel bad about. :)
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ebh
Just need to decide between high gloss or satin black. Would love to see pictures of the speakers in these finishes from a distance as well.
I agree.
Dave, would it be possible to see the three blacks from a distance? The best would be the three black towers standing next to each other, but even just swatches of each color from a bit further back would be great! Thanks!
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What's the regular pricing going to be? What's the time frame for the monster center? I want the towers, but will not purchase until the center is available. I don't want to use a Sierra NRT for center duty.
-Dave
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ripcordaff
I agree.
Dave, would it be possible to see the three blacks from a distance? The best would be the three black towers standing next to each other, but even just swatches of each color from a bit further back would be great! Thanks!
Concur with ripcordaff.
Before making a decision, I would like to see the difference between the three blacks swatches in one picture.
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curtis
and that sweet midrange driver! :)
I was looking at that big Sexy myself........ :D
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As long as you all order the satin or high glass black, my hand rubbed Piano Black ones will retain higher resale value, thanks in advance.
;)
:D
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DaveHo
What's the regular pricing going to be? What's the time frame for the monster center? I want the towers, but will not purchase until the center is available. I don't want to use a Sierra NRT for center duty.
-Dave
I too wonder what the price increase will be. I had been saving up for the towers since they were announced but a mother and her 2 daughters lost their husband (and father) last year (he was only 43 and retired Air Force) and they lost their heat during 0 degree winter. 3 of my friends and I pitched in and bought them a new heat and air unit so my speaker money went back down to $0. I've started a new speaker fund but I'm pretty sure I won't have enough to get in on the current prices and just hope they don't go up too much.
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Brandon , your speakers are making me drool, hoping to hear good things about the listening session tomorrow. I really love your speakers but that is a big jump in price, need to see better pictures of the other blacks. Your pictures with the other blacks is what is needed. Hoping for those, please Dave.
Thanks Rich
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edmondwolfman
I too wonder what the price increase will be. I had been saving up for the towers since they were announced but a mother and her 2 daughters lost their husband (and father) last year (he was only 43 and retired Air Force) and they lost their heat during 0 degree winter. 3 of my friends and I pitched in and bought them a new heat and air unit so my speaker money went back down to $0. I've started a new speaker fund but I'm pretty sure I won't have enough to get in on the current prices and just hope they don't go up too much.
Edmond, you're a great man doing that for those people. You may have zero audio funds from it, but at least it was from a great cause. Good on you!:)
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RCDAVE
Edmond, you're a great man doing that for those people. You may have zero audio funds from it, but at least it was from a great cause. Good on you!:)
I appreciate that RC, it was the right thing to do. I don't mind donating for a cause at all if I can see it actually doing some good :)
Now I'm on the trail of some speakers and maybe some type of valve preamp down the road :D
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Reflections1
Brandon , your speakers are making me drool, hoping to hear good things about the listening session tomorrow. I really love your speakers but that is a big jump in price, need to see better pictures of the other blacks. Your pictures with the other blacks is what is needed. Hoping for those, please Dave.
Thanks Rich
Thanks for the comments Rich! Today should be a blast, looking forward to hearing some great speakers and chatting with good friends. I agree with you all, its tough to determine what black finish based on small pictures of samples. It may be a while before Dave has actual cabinets in each finish but maybe instead he can snap some pics of each sample side by side. Im actually sort of fond on that flatter black textured look, seems very practical and probably wont show as much dust, imperfections, etc.
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merrymaid520
Thanks for the comments Rich! Today should be a blast, looking forward to hearing some great speakers and chatting with good friends. I agree with you all, its tough to determine what black finish based on small pictures of samples. It may be a while before Dave has actual cabinets in each finish but maybe instead he can snap some pics of each sample side by side. Im actually sort of fond on that flatter black textured look, seems very practical and probably wont show as much dust, imperfections, etc.
Merry, I too am looking forward to your reviews, especially compared to the Salk Songtowers (if you get them there). The Songtowers were at the top of my list. I was looking at the Sierra-1s but my wife doesn't really like small speakers on stands although the stands from Ascend do make the sierras look like tower speakers. Then came the announcement of the towers so I held off buying anything new and now I may be able to get a review of the Ascend towers and the Songtowers in head to head match :D
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Well I scored tickets first row upper deck behind home. For this I missed the hometown Ascends!! Was it worth it? I'm not sure. How did things go Merrymaid? I'm dying to know. I'm sure you guys had a blast.
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Check the GTG thread in here:)
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MerryMaid,
Well, I'm on the pre-order. Did you get the foam bungs with your Towers?
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TomK
MerryMaid,
Well, I'm on the pre-order. Did you get the foam bungs with your Towers?
Congrats!, No, no foam plugs. Not sure if Dave is working on them or not.
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what center channel will come with this speaker ? will it be overkill in a14x14 room with hardwood floors?
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waynes
what center channel will come with this speaker ? will it be overkill in a14x14 room with hardwood floors?
Currently the sierra-1 with the NrT upgrade would match well although a larger center with the mid driver is in the works.
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If I order sierra-1 LCR do I just ask for the upgrade prior to shipping. Also in my 14x14 room with hardwood floors would using my 340's as surrounds be over kill.Finally does anyone have experience with the yamaha rx-a2000,onkyo 808 or marantz powering the sierra-1 nrt's.
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I had a Denon AVR with 90 watts per channel, and a 100 watt per channel Onkyo powering my Sierra-1s. I now have a Marantz SR6003 powering my Sierra-NrTs. It sounds great!
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To Waynes, the advantage of the HTM-200's over 170's is that they can be mounted close to the wall since they have no port. I'm doing that in my room and am very satisfied with the way they blend with Sierra LCR.
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Waynes,
For what it's worth, I use the 200s for my L/R Surrounds. They do a good job but have a small footprint. If that helps.
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Hi Dave, Im not sure if im understanding your discriptions about the finish of the towers. The available dark cherry and expresso have a satin sheen and are not as glossy as the sierra1. I have the original dark cherry and the finish is quiet glossy, if i decided to buy the towers, the satin sheen wont exactly match the old sierra right? Is it possible to have it finish with that glossy dark cherry? Also, you have mentioned that the these are made locally and can be made with a different finish such as paint or veneer. How much extra for finishing with veneer? Thanks
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RicardoJoa
Hi Dave, Im not sure if im understanding your discriptions about the finish of the towers. The available dark cherry and expresso have a satin sheen and are not as glossy as the sierra1. I have the original dark cherry and the finish is quiet glossy, if i decided to buy the towers, the satin sheen wont exactly match the old sierra right? Is it possible to have it finish with that glossy dark cherry? Also, you have mentioned that the these are made locally and can be made with a different finish such as paint or veneer. How much extra for finishing with veneer? Thanks
This is correct, we will be offering a satin sheen with the Espresso and Dark Cherry finish for the towers. These cabinets are being manufactured here in California and due to extremely restrictive environmental regulations (and costs), the same piano gloss sheen of the dark cherry and espresso Sierra-1 will not be offered.
The stain (grain and hue) will match, but the sheen of the towers is not mirror-like. Most consumers I have spoken with do not want the piano gloss sheen of the bookshelves on the towers -- for a large imposing speaker, it simply becomes too reflective.
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Also, you have mentioned that the these are made locally and can be made with a different finish such as paint or veneer. How much extra for finishing with veneer?
That is correct. The cost will vary considerably based on the specific veneer and/or paint. I would estimate the minimum charge for any type of customized finish will be at least $200 per speaker cabinet.
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Dave, is me again. Would like to know what is the best center to match the towers. The oubvious should be the sierra with nrt tweeter, but then the woofer wont exactly match the mid of the tower. How close would they come? Why not use the mid from the tower and have it in TM configuration for the mids?
Thanks
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I asked this same question many weeks ago. My guess is the mid range unit in the Tower will just not have the low frequency ability to match the exceptional Nrt tweeter if used alone in the Sierra 1. I would think an entirely new Sierra 1 woofer will have to be designed and maybe a new crossover. I'm sure that will be forthcoming and, hopefully, be an upgrade to the current model but I wouldn't expect it soon. I'm sure Dave has his hands full with getting the current new speakers to market.
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I think I remember reading that there would be a dedicated tower center...
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Dave did mention somewhere about a matching 3 way center speaker. It would need to be fairly tall due to the vertical alignment of the midrange & tweeter. That would be flanked on both sides by the woofers.
I'd say, in the meantime, a Sierra-NrT would perform just fine.
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Speaking from experience, the towers blend well with the Sierra Nrt I have as a center.
;)
I will be definitely investigating the yet to be released matching center when its ready.
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I just did a quick shipping quote via fedex and ups over my place (asia) and im suprised of the cost, it will cost 700-800 to ship those towers over. I hope Dave offer other less costly carriers, otherwise the towers can only be in my want list.:(
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Dave,
Not to throw a monkey wrench into the gears......but, have you
ever given thought to selling your speakers in kit form for the DIYs out there? You could offer just the parts and enclosure plans, or the complete kit including parts and finished enclosure. Just a thought for saving money. Anyone have an opinion?
I apologize for the monkey wrench!