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Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
As times goes on, I am more and more happy with my new Sierra-1 NRT L/C/R speakers. My apologies to Dave for poo pooing the sound initially as now I notice how bad other speakers sound when I compare them to Sierras-1.
I have yet to replace my SUB and surrounds. Planning on that update this week possibly.
A friend came by last week, looked at my speakers, was impressed, BUT said that if I put those Sierra-1 as surrounds and get the Sierra Towers for the front, THAT will be the ultimate set up.
My question is .... in terms of quality of sound, volume, depth, etc .... is the sound from the Sierra Towers (with RAAL) in a different ballpark when compared to Sierra-1 NRT?
My room is just 13x18 with 8.5 ceiling and I do have neighbors so I'd never blast my music or movies. I do 60% music and 40% movies. I sit about 7-10ft away from speakers. Center channel is about 6-7 feet away from me ... pretty close. That's why I am thinking that in this situation Towers may be an overkill.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
My opinion, YES the Towers especially with the RAAL tweeter will be a definite step up all around over and above the sierra-1 NrT's. You gain the dedicated midrange driver and better tweeter of course. Plus, the towers offer more bass:)
again, someone else may not believe the added investment is worth the improvement. If you can, try and demo a RAAL Tower.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
As times goes on, I am more and more happy with my new Sierra-1 NRT L/C/R speakers. My apologies to Dave for poo pooing the sound initially as now I notice how bad other speakers sound when I compare them to Sierras-1.
I have yet to replace my SUB and surrounds. Planning on that update this week possibly.
A friend came by last week, looked at my speakers, was impressed, BUT said that if I put those Sierra-1 as surrounds and get the Sierra Towers for the front, THAT will be the ultimate set up.
My question is .... in terms of quality of sound, volume, depth, etc .... is the sound from the Sierra Towers (with RAAL) in a different ballpark when compared to Sierra-1 NRT?
My room is just 13x18 with 8.5 ceiling and I do have neighbors so I'd never blast my music or movies. I do 60% music and 40% movies. I sit about 7-10ft away from speakers. Center channel is about 6-7 feet away from me ... pretty close. That's why I am thinking that in this situation Towers may be an overkill.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
My question is .... in terms of quality of sound, volume, depth, etc .... is the sound from the Sierra Towers (with RAAL) in a different ballpark when compared to Sierra-1 NRT?
IMO...yes.
The Tower simply has better midrange detail to begin with...due to the dedicated and purpose designed/built midrange driver.
I like the RAAL tweeter over the NrT tweeter. It offers more detail over the NrT, and is smoother. Others will like the NrT for it's more forward nature.
And the Tower does player lower and can play louder.
For your sized room, and seating distances, I think the Towers would work fine, but of course, consult Ascend.
edit: I see merrymaid beat me to it... :)
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
so future upgrade would be to ...... spend $4,000 on towers and center speaker and place Sierras-1 NRT (L/R) as surrounds. And sell Sierra-1 NRT center channel speaker.
result .... dream set up?
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
so future upgrade would be to ...... spend $4,000 on towers and center speaker and place Sierras-1 NRT (L/R) as surrounds. And sell Sierra-1 NRT center channel speaker.
result .... dream set up?
I dont think the tower is going to be overkill.
The tower should through out a more realitic and consistant sound base on the raal review and the polar response. The vertical coverage should be larger as well.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Another option would be to wait and see what uber-upgrade Dave is cooking up for the Sierra-1 & NrT. Should be much cheaper than buying the towers. We don't know what this is truly going to be, but it may offer another viable alternative. If it is worhwhile, you could upgrade your L/R Sierra's, replace the Sierra-NrT center with the Tower center, then just pick up some CBM-170's or HTM-200's for surrounds(maybe even the 340's!).
I'd estimate the upgrade will be available around Spring, but what do I know!:o
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Mag_Neato
Another option would be to wait and see what uber-upgrade Dave is cooking up for the Sierra-1 & NrT. Should be much cheaper than buying the towers. We don't know what this is truly going to be, but it may offer another viable alternative. If it is worhwhile, you could upgrade your L/R Sierra's, replace the Sierra-NrT center with the Tower center, then just pick up some CBM-170's or HTM-200's for surrounds(maybe even the 340's!).
I'd estimate the upgrade will be available around Spring, but what do I know!:o
You think it could be an additional section making the speaker look like a tower? I doubt it.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Pianist718
You think it could be an additional section making the speaker look like a tower? I doubt it.
I don't know whether or not it will convert the Sierra-1 to a tower, but I'd doubt that as well. If you are set on a tower speaker, then the Sierra Tower is the only offering from Ascend.
It may be possible that this upgrade will bring the Sierra-1/NrT(Which Dave mentioned would become the Sierra-2) That much closer to the Towers' performance. We will just have to wait and see.:confused:
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Pianist718
You think it could be an additional section making the speaker look like a tower? I doubt it.
You never know :-) I'm thinking an additional sphere shaped enclosure to place on top of sierra for dedicated midrange.. That would be an uber upgrade :-)
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Sam1000
You never know :-) I'm thinking an additional sphere shaped enclosure to place on top of sierra for dedicated midrange.. That would be an uber upgrade :-)
That would make me a very happy guy. :D
I guess we'll see, eh?
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
it's just that after spending $1800 I am thinking that for another $2K I could have had towers with center channel. Question is .... would it be a huge difference?
OR I can just go buy the 170s for surrounds, get Rythmik F12 for sub and call it a day. I guess a friend coming in and surprisingly saying "Oh, these are reference monitors??" got me a bit sad here :-)
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
it's just that after spending $1800 I am thinking that for another $2K I could have had towers with center channel. Question is .... would it be a huge difference?
OR I can just go buy the 170s for surrounds, get Rythmik F12 for sub and call it a day. I guess a friend coming in and surprisingly saying "Oh, these are reference monitors??" got me a bit sad here :-)
Since you do 60% music, I think Towers would be an upgrade. Will it be a huge difference? only you can decide that. Most folks would be very happy with Sierra-1 + Rythmik combo. In this hobby, it's a law of diminishing returns after a certain point. If you can get an audition for Towers and compare the notes, you can decide for yourself.
Which speakers your friend own or compared to when he made that comment?
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
My question is .... in terms of quality of sound, volume, depth, etc .... is the sound from the Sierra Towers (with RAAL) in a different ballpark when compared to Sierra-1 NRT?
My room is just 13x18 with 8.5 ceiling and ....I am thinking that in this situation Towers may be an overkill.
I had L/C/R Sierra-1's and upgraded to Sierra Towers w/NRT. And I am 100% with Curtis and Merrymaid on this - the Towers really are a whole new ball park of game above the Sierra-1's. As Curtis said, that dedicated midrange makes all the difference, plus they punch deeper. After only a few moments of playing them, I immediately noticed the improvement and thought it was *well* worth the money invested. :)
I put the Sierra-1's on surround duty (7.1) and I eventually picked up the new monster Sierra Tower Center...which is amazing. I don't know how or why, but it is more cohesive and impacts cleaner than even the standard towers. Must be Dave's black magic.
So, I have exactly the system you describe (plus a pair of D-15SE subs)...my room is roughly 17x24ish (one corner is closed) and I sit about 12 ft from the speakers. I enjoy it so much I'm considering a RAAL upgrade :) And tempted to upgrade the subs to F25's. What else to do with tax returns, right? In my opinion, it's not overkill. I could still use more headroom (heh).
Anyhow, where are you located? I'd be happy to demo the system if you are in my neighborhood (Nebraska).
Also, "kwarny" (nickname on this forum and AVS) came over to check out my system recently so you can ask him for thoughts - he's heard a lot of gear I think. Same goes for "tesseract67" on AVS, he had very positive things to say about my overall setup.
Edit - call me crazy, but I do love having the Sierra-1's as surrounds. It's a bit of a guilty pleasure, but between them and the monster STC, I *really* enjoy multichannel music...even just CD's hopped up on Dolby PL-IIx. I also think that Sierra-1's for surrounds are awesome with a medium (50-60hz) crossover for movies...get things a bit more punchy all around. I'm very happy I have it all set up that way.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
I guess a friend coming in and surprisingly saying "Oh, these are reference monitors??" got me a bit sad here :-)
I wouldn't be too concerned about what other people think. (I know, easier said than done) Some people expect 'Reference Sound' to be very bright or whatever they're used to. **** is quite popular, some people think it's the best. :D I love how realistic voices sound with Sierra's and that they're non-fatiguing compared to other speakers I've heard. And as you've experienced sometimes it takes some time to acclimatize to a new sound.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Unrelated question. How big of a difference did having 2 D15SE subs versus one make for you if you have tried it this way? I have just one with a now larger room and need more headroom and impact. I'm hoping adding a matching Rythmik will be enough?
I also agree with you that sierras make great surrounds and the STC is amazing:)
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Jonnyozero3
I had L/C/R Sierra-1's and upgraded to Sierra Towers w/NRT. And I am 100% with Curtis and Merrymaid on this - the Towers really are a whole new ball park of game above the Sierra-1's. As Curtis said, that dedicated midrange makes all the difference, plus they punch deeper. After only a few moments of playing them, I immediately noticed the improvement and thought it was *well* worth the money invested. :)
I put the Sierra-1's on surround duty (7.1) and I eventually picked up the new monster Sierra Tower Center...which is amazing. I don't know how or why, but it is more cohesive and impacts cleaner than even the standard towers. Must be Dave's black magic.
So, I have exactly the system you describe (plus a pair of D-15SE subs)...my room is roughly 17x24ish (one corner is closed) and I sit about 12 ft from the speakers. I enjoy it so much I'm considering a RAAL upgrade :) And tempted to upgrade the subs to F25's. What else to do with tax returns, right? In my opinion, it's not overkill. I could still use more headroom (heh).
Anyhow, where are you located? I'd be happy to demo the system if you are in my neighborhood (Nebraska).
Also, "kwarny" (nickname on this forum and AVS) came over to check out my system recently so you can ask him for thoughts - he's heard a lot of gear I think. Same goes for "tesseract67" on AVS, he had very positive things to say about my overall setup.
Edit - call me crazy, but I do love having the Sierra-1's as surrounds. It's a bit of a guilty pleasure, but between them and the monster STC, I *really* enjoy multichannel music...even just CD's hopped up on Dolby PL-IIx. I also think that Sierra-1's for surrounds are awesome with a medium (50-60hz) crossover for movies...get things a bit more punchy all around. I'm very happy I have it all set up that way.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Sam1000
Since you do 60% music, I think Towers would be an upgrade. Will it be a huge difference? only you can decide that. Most folks would be very happy with Sierra-1 + Rythmik combo. In this hobby, it's a law of diminishing returns after a certain point. If you can get an audition for Towers and compare the notes, you can decide for yourself.
Which speakers your friend own or compared to when he made that comment?
He is looking to buy a soundbar ... one of those from Yamaha for $2K.
he did have a home theater system from Yamaha I believe with towers. Not in a thousands price range but he has been into home theater sound for years.
To me Sierra-1 nrt sounds great and the only time it sounds bad is when recordings I play are of bad quality.
It's just that I am a perfectionist. If I know that something is much better than what I bought, I won't rest until I perfect it.
Going from my 10Yr old HTiB from Onkyo to Sierra-1 (L,C,R) still using sub and rears from HTiB was a noticeable improvement but not like Oh MY God, How did I live before? you know what I mean? Sounds is great but at almost $2K I expected even better.
So maybe it really takes $4K (Sierra towers with center speaker) to get that real WOW>?
if so, then maybe I should get the (L/R) towers with RAAL and keeping Sierra-1Nrt center?
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
Going from my 10Yr old HTiB from Onkyo to Sierra-1 (L,C,R) still using sub and rears from HTiB was a noticeable improvement but not like Oh MY God, How did I live before? you know what I mean? Sounds is great but at almost $2K I expected even better.
I will guarantee you that the sub is not of the same quality of the Sierra's. Change it out, and you will have another "Wow" moment.
I am not sure how you have it integrated, but I am sure that it is bringing down the overall experience when it is used in conjunction with the Sierras.
From and HTiB to Sierra standpoint, I would expect a considerable improvement...and I mean CONSIDERABLE. Perhaps there is a configuration/setup issue.
You will spend a long time trying to achieve perfection. There are SO MANY factors. Speakers play a big roll, but there is so much more that contributes to the sound in your room.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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curtis
I will guarantee you that the sub is not of the same quality of the Sierra's. Change it out, and you will have another "Wow" moment.
I am not sure how you have it integrated, but I am sure that it is bringing down the overall experience when it is used in conjunction with the Sierras.
From and HTiB to Sierra standpoint, I would expect a considerable improvement...and I mean CONSIDERABLE. Perhaps there is a configuration/setup issue.
You will spend a long time trying to achieve perfection. There are SO MANY factors. Speakers play a big roll, but there is so much more that contributes to the sound in your room.
Yea, a SUB is a must and I have been looking for one for a month now. First wanted to get Rythmik F12 sealed. Then after realizing that I do 40% music and 60% movies and TV shows .... maybe I need a ported one.
Since I have neighbors (apartment building) I am not looking for big output. Can't have my walls shake. Want accuracy and sound quality.
Do I get a F12? wait for the replacement of the old FV12 ?
room is 13x18 and 8.5 ceiling.
Any suggestions?
My next upgrade is to also change my surrounds as I do listen to music in 7 Channel option and I am sure that my 2 old rear speakers are messing with the overall sound.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
Yea, a SUB is a must and I have been looking for one for a month now. First wanted to get Rythmik F12 sealed. Then after realizing that I do 40% music and 60% movies and TV shows .... maybe I need a ported one.
Since I have neighbors (apartment building) I am not looking for big output. Can't have my walls shake. Want accuracy and sound quality.
Do I get a F12? wait for the replacement of the old FV12 ?
room is 13x18 and 8.5 ceiling.
Any suggestions?
My next upgrade is to also change my surrounds as I do listen to music in 7 Channel option and I am sure that my 2 old rear speakers are messing with the overall sound.
You will realize more WOW at louder volumes compared to the HTiB speakers.
In that space and what I think your listening levels are, I would think the F12 will more than suffice in terms of output, and will have better sound quality.
If you posted it before, I missed it, but where are you located?
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
curtis
You will realize more WOW at louder volumes compared to the HTiB speakers.
In that space and what I think your listening levels are, I would think the F12 will more than suffice in terms of output, and will have better sound quality.
If you posted it before, I missed it, but where are you located?
I am in brooklyn, NY
I just thought that maybe a sub like FV12 (ported) was better in my situation. No?
Also ... what's the benefit of F12SE (signature edition)
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
I am in brooklyn, NY
I just thought that maybe a sub like FV12 (ported) was better in my situation. No?
Also ... what's the benefit of F12SE (signature edition)
I don't see any benefit in your situation with the FV12. What advantage do you see in it ? We can discuss.
The "SE" difference is just in the finish...piano black.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
curtis
I don't see any benefit in your situation with the FV12. What advantage do you see in it ? We can discuss.
The "SE" difference is just in the finish...piano black.
I thought that I can do good with less spend and plus, I hear ported sub is better for movies. Rythmik are known for their Ported subs sounding as good as other sealed subs for music.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Pianist718
I thought that I can do good with less spend and plus, I hear ported sub is better for movies. Rythmik are known for their Ported subs sounding as good as other sealed subs for music.
Ported subs can play louder around the tuning of the port, in the lower octave their capabilities. This is especially good in larger rooms.
Your room is not big, and you don't play at loud levels, so this advantage is lost.
If you want save money, then the FV12 is a good option. It just won't sound as great as the F12, but that isn't to say it isn't great in its own right.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
So a final verdict .... Spend $1,000 to have Towers (L/R), sierra-1 NrT center and old HTIB sub
Or
Spend $1,000 on a Rythmik f12 sub and keep my (l/c/r) Sierra-1 NrTs?
What do u guys think?
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Just going based on what Dave had mentioned, the center 'should' be the most ideal speaker when it comes to surround. The HTIB sub seems more out of place given that.
It does seem upgrading the sub is a better idea.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
I thought that I can do good with less spend and plus, I hear ported sub is better for movies. Rythmik are known for their Ported subs sounding as good as other sealed subs for music.
Ported is going to be louder, if that what is you need or want.
The peq version is very handy, it can help you tailor a better sound with the different settings like damping and extension and the peq.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Hi Pianist, :)
If I remember correctly, you enjoy listening to a subwoofer for music and movies, and you'd like to keep it that way. While it is true that the Sierra Towers/Horizon will be a step up in performance over your Sierra-1 NrT, the fact remains that the Onkyo HTIB sub is not contributing on the same level of your Sierra-1s. If I can be more blunt, it's basically a weak link in the chain. Therefore, my suggestion would be to upgrade your subwoofer since you want the bass reinforcement for music and movies.
Since you're still considering Rythmik, I agree with Curtis and recommend the sealed version (F12) instead of the ported. In your own words:
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Since I have neighbors (apartment building) I am not looking for big output. Can't have my walls shake. Want accuracy and sound quality.
As Curtis pointed out, the usual benefits of a ported subwoofer don't blend with your requirements. The sealed sub will give you the accuracy and sound quality you're looking for. Trust me on that. Last year, I upgraded my old 250 watt Acoustic Research 12" sealed subwoofer (with passive radiator) and bought a 15" sealed Rythmik. The difference was literally night and day. I had the "wow" moment that Curtis mentioned.
BTW, there is basically no difference in SQ between the current 12" and 15" Rythmik models due to the design and servo architecture. The only reason I bought the 15" was to "future proof" my setup and because I've always wanted a 15" subwoofer. :p
You also asked about the "SE" difference. Curtis mentioned the gloss finish, but you also have the choice of cone/driver colors: either black or silver. I have the F15SE model to match my piano black Sierra-1s, and went with the standard black cone instead of the silver (it was back-ordered). I've seen the silver cone in a few setups and it looks great.
Upgrade subwoofer. Final answer. :cool:
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Yea i am leaning towards upgrading as my bonuses come in :). Today buy the sub. In 3 month I'll get right and left towers thus moving Sieras nrt to surrounds. Next upgrade will be new big center speaker thus will sell my Sierra-1 center speaker and my last piece of the puzzle will be a new receiver.
Total cost after all is done, around $6,500. How good will that be? :)
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
I dunno my ported av12x sounds awesome... if you ask me. I've compared it against other highly regarded subs(ported) and I preferred it over the pb13u and vtf15h. There is little reason that a well built & designed ported sub within its limits couldn't hold up to a sealed sub....or better it...YMMV.
Just my 2 cents...:)
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Ported subs definitely have their advantages, but in my experience, there are definitely different sound characteristics.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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curtis
Ported subs definitely have their advantages, but in my experience, there are definitely different sound characteristics.
Hi Curtis...I heard Avs member PBC dual, dual av15hs and I understand how sealed units can pressurize a room...not sure what you mean by sound characteristics being different other than sealed units with second order harmonics are able to acheive those last few octaves which separate the 2 designs from a performance standpoint.
However...to me both sub playing within their limits sounded mostly simliar and both provided very tight accurate tacle bass(I know sounds like a cliche'..sorry:o) without missing a beat...especially in the mid to upper mid bass domain where most music is usually concentrated.
Ps: One day I'd like to hear a Rythmik sub and judge them for myself...if they weren't quality subs...Ascend likely wouldn't be afilited with them...:cool:
Regards...Bill
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
If you hear a sealed sub playing 16hz organ note, and a ported sub (port tuned to 16hz) playing the same note, the sound isn't the same.
Illka in his test of a Rythmik noted how it sounded "drier", lack of overhang.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Just saw that center speaker is 23" wide. My max space is 22" unless i hang my plasma on the wall and give full stand space to center speaker.
Opinion on having towers NrT with center Sierra-1NrT ???
Movies and music?
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Pianist718
Just saw that center speaker is 23" wide. My max space is 22" unless i hang my plasma on the wall and give full stand space to center speaker.
There are several people who have opted for hanging the plasma and using the top of the stand to hold the STC (self included). I am very happy with the results. Take a look at the last 7 or so pages of the photo thread. WAF is very high in my case.
There is no compromise in sound quality and the center is a nice piece of furniture. Why hide it?!;)
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JustaSheep
There are several people who have opted for hanging the plasma and using the top of the stand to hold the STC (self included). I am very happy with the results. Take a look at the last 7 or so pages of the photo thread. WAF is very high in my case.
There is no compromise in sound quality and the center is a nice piece of furniture. Why hide it?!;)
include me as well.....hang that TV and get the HTC!! You won't regret it.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
I am thinking .... Is keeping Sierra-1 NrT as surrounds an overkill?
I do listen to music in 7ch receiver mode, so if for movies it may be an overkill, is it also too much for 7ch music listening? Could i have been more than happy with lets say the HTM 200?
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
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Originally Posted by
Pianist718
I am thinking .... Is keeping Sierra-1 NrT as surrounds an overkill?
I do listen to music in 7ch receiver mode, so if for movies it may be an overkill, is it also too much for 7ch music listening? Could i have been more than happy with lets say the HTM 200?
Sample size of one (me): I don't think it's overkill at all, not for music or movies in 7ch. I'd say you'd easily be happy with an HTM 200, but the Sierras are very punchy, dynamic, more refined, and a pleasure to use as surrounds. It depends on your pocketbook...using them as such is a luxury, but it's great.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
Poket allowes me to do it but having money is not a reason to overspend or spend where it's not needed. For home theater it is probably an overkill but for music in All speakers mode it may not. Just wanted to see what others think. Thanks
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
I use HTM-200's for surrounds and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. But there is no doubt that 170's and especially Sierra's would be an upgrade. It's definitely not where I would spend my money and more importantly I don't have the space to properly set 170's or Sierra's up.
So, if you have the room and feel like you want the 'best', than go with the Sierra's for surrounds. DVD-A and SACD discs will sound FANTASTIC!
If all of you music is two channel than Sierra's for surrounds might not be worth it.
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Re: Sierra-1 NRT vs Towers. No comparison??? A friend got me thinking.
I am still torn between RAAL vs NrT.
Currently I have (L/C/R) Sierras-1 NrT.
I am thinking .... for two kinds of sounds will I hear a big improvement from the RAAL tweeter. Those 2 sounds are ...... a leading saxophone in a smooth jazz music and human voice in movies. How bit of an improvement will this be for those specific sounds?