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curtis
11-03-2003, 01:49 AM
I just got brackets from the hardware store. When I had HTM-200's, had them mounted the same way as the CBM-170's are in these pictures:

http://www.thechangs.us/ceiling1.JPG
http://www.thechangs.us/ceiling2.JPG
http://www.thechangs.us/ceiling3.JPG


-curtis

uthiroid
11-03-2003, 03:18 AM
thanks for the reply. i had seen your solution (at avs?) but i preferred to have it mount flush to the wall with the non ported htm-200.

any other thoughts, or are there other brackets at the hardware store that might work (i plan to go take a look too)

curtis
11-03-2003, 04:16 AM
By flush, do you mean right up against the wall? Back to the wall or side to the wall?

-curtis

uthiroid
11-03-2003, 09:16 AM
i would mount them with the back of the speaker flush to the wall. they will face inward from the lateral walls toward the center seating.


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Derek
11-14-2003, 08:23 AM
Do you mean like this:

http://www.thechangs.us/200_on_wall.jpg

I first mounted my 200 surrounds using the omnimount brackets, but my wife and I both hated how it looked. So, I removed the slotted keyhole brackets off of my old crappy surround speakers and screwed them to the back of each 200. They look like this:

http://www.thechangs.us/200_bracket.jpg

I also added two rubber feet to the bottom of the speakers so that they hang parallel to the wall and to prevent them from swinging.

If you don't have any old speakers with brackets like this, don't worry. Before I decided to use these brackets I went to home depot and bought some d-ring picture hangers, like this:

http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=howTo&p=HomeDecor/0102HangersScrewsAnchors

I think these would have worked just fine. Just make sure that the screw used to hang the speakers on is screwed into a stud.

Good luck,
Derek

P.S. I can't take credit for the d-ring brackets. I read about them someplace else.

P.P.S. Thanks Curtis for hosting these pics!

Derek
11-14-2003, 08:28 AM
Nice pictures, Derek... [:I]

How does one insert pictures into posts on this board?

curtis
11-14-2003, 08:39 AM
Derek...do you have the images stored on a server somewhere? If not, you can send them to me I can fix your post for you.

-curtis

curtis
11-14-2003, 12:48 PM
OK...fixed it for Derek

-curtis

marko
11-17-2003, 06:50 AM
Hey Derek,
Didn't you once say that you bought Omnimount 20's and wanted to sell them? Were they 200 specific or could you use them with the 170s? I finally got my system and now I need to figure out what to do with my surrounds :)

Also what shaft length do the omni mounts come in?


...Marko

Derek
11-18-2003, 09:47 PM
Yep I still have them. Here is what they look like:

http://www.omnimount.com/product.asp?p=54

They will work with both the 200s and the 170s. Off the top of my head, I'd guess the shaft length is about three inches, but I will measure it tonight.

Derek

Derek
11-19-2003, 09:46 PM
Marko,

The length of the shaft is about 3.5". When the shaft is mounted onto the bracket, the speaker sits about 3.75" away from the wall.

If you want any more details, please pm me.

Derek

M3_Pete
06-29-2004, 02:27 AM
I sent an e-mail to Dave Fabrikant about flush-mounting the HTM-200s, noting that the screws are on the bottom, for use with a bracket. This is what he said:

"The wall mount inserts on the HTM-200 are on the back of the speaker, not on the bottom. While you can't hang them flush with the brackets we sell, I have recommended these many time and they work quite well...
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&offerings_id=344

You would need to actually screw the bracket into the speaker cabinet, but this is really not a problem at all. Many of our customers use this method."

Dave and I then had these follow-up Q & As:

>>The HTM-200 uses 5/8" MDF, right? So 1/2" or 3/8" wood screws should work, right?

Yes.. the HTM-200 is 5/8" MDF (very dense). 1/2" screws or even 5/8" screws would be just fine!

>>I know what you mean by the "wall mount inserts on the HTM-200 are on the back of the speaker, not on the bottom," but they are on the back towards the "bottom" of the speaker back. My question is, can you turn the speaker "upside down" to use these screws to support a hanger?

Yes.. absolutely, without problem.

>> I think you want the tweeter to be closest to the listener, so I might have to change sides of the room with that configuration, right? (I plan on using them as surrounds in a 5.1 setup).

For surrounds it won't matter at all.

>>One last question: My living room is "separated" from the walkway that runs along it by a couple of wall projections that stick out into the room about a foot or two, and are about a foot wide. I plan on hanging the speakers on the ends of these projections, so they will be on a flat surface, about a foot wide, that runs from floor to ceiling, with space on either side. I plan to hang them about 6 to 7 feet high, and the ceiling is about 10 feet. The listening position will be about 2 feet in front of the wall projection, and about 4-5 feet from the side of the wall projection. Should I hang them horizontally, with the tweeter on the bottom, or vertically, with the tweeter towards the listener?

In that case I would recommend hanging them horizontally, with the tweeter towards the bottom. A five degree angle downwards would be perfect, and I recommend it. Dolby never considers music performance in any of their specifications :) ...

Thanks to Dave for a great explanation. I hope he does not mind me posting it here, since it may answer a few questions that others may have.

uthiroid
06-29-2004, 06:23 AM
I ended up buying the M+K mounts that my local audio shop carried. they were similar to the omnimount, and have worked great.

Mag_Neato
06-29-2004, 06:32 AM
Those keyslot brackets on the 200's look exactly like
the ones I stole from a pair of cheapie Kenwood surrounds that came with my first add-on Pro-logic
processor(long gone)and am currently using on my 2-way surrounds. I have them "hanging" from homemade 5' oak stands as wall mounting did not pass the WAF test!

Ed